Course structure and integration ORA.ATO.125
Dear Fellow pilots,
I would like to ask you about PPL course organisation and hour distribution for a small non complex ATO or DTO. We are trying to redo our manuals and to improve our implementation of the course, mostly the theory part, It is not easy as at my club we are a few part timers. So far we have used common sense and the availability we have for class distribution but most manual forms indeed ask you to specifcy a number of "weekly and monthly hours". None of this is specificaly stated in supart ORA.ATO.125 at least that I've seen, neither I've seen mentioned anywere maximum number of daily hours for students, to which obviously subpart FTL does not apply, for other schools I see varies between 4 and 8. As always, I will be looking forward to your guidance! I appreciate your help. Samuel |
What EASA don't seem to realise is that people go to a flying club to learn to fly, they have no idea what licences exist, let alone what they might want and at that stage and have no intention of enroling or embarking upon an integrated course. They will turn up when they can afford it; have time and the weather is good.
In the case of an ATO conducting more advanced training, you invariably have targeted individuals who wish to complete a specific course of training in an efficient organised manner at the lowest possible price. It is for that reason that the FFA told EASA to stop the ATO nonsense with PPL training, so why are you looking at going down this route for PPL? The DTO requires no manuals just a published training program. You simply can't put together a course for people who turn up every 4 weeks so why bother trying? |
I disagree with Whopity.
Flight training works best if it is structured in a coherent and consistent way. Whether the student shows up every day or once a month, they should know what they are going to be taught, what the expectations are for success for that lesson are and what level of proficiency will be required to move to the next lesson. Transport Canada publishes a free Flight Instructor guide with a PPL syllabus and lesson plans for each air exercise. Google it and see what you think. There is no need to re-invent the wheel. |
I don’t think Whopity is suggesting that students shouldn’t know what they’re going to be taught or in what order the exercises will be taught in or not be told what the completion standards are. In the UK, since pretty much forever there has been a PPL syllabus based on the RAF central flying school syllabus, with exercises starting with air experience and effects of controls and building on those exercises in a logical manner. I think he is just saying that this already exists, so why make things complicated if you don’t have to, for PPL students who are just flying for a hobby and to enjoy themselves. As BPF said, why try to reinvent the wheel. |
I don’t think Whopity meant no structure or manuals - his point is that some of the requirements for ATO manuals are way over the top for a PPL course. A defined training programme by day - maximum hours per week, rest periods etc are not so relevant in “fun flying” , predefined nav routes etc. |
BPF
Flight training works best if it is structured in a coherent and consistent way. |
Sorry I am a little late, :ugh:
Thanks Whopity and everyone for all for the responses and excellent points! Fly safe. Samuel |
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