ME IR Revalidation Issue
Hello everyone, I am in a bit of a weird situation with my Caa regarding the issuing of my license with the new ratings after my last revalidation and I am hoping to get some more clarifying if anyone can help on the subject. While having my MEP-IR valid, I have performed an lpc in a standard FNTP II Allview simulator as per FCL.625.A IR A (3) where I am allowed to do the revalidation of the IR every other year as long as the next one is done in the actual airplane. Now the problem is, my Caa doesn't want to issue the license with any ratings in any way as they say that they cannot associate the IR with any class rating. As far as I know even though I have never been in this situation, if I am doing the lpc in the sim with valid ratings at hand, I should if I am not mistaken, have the license reissued as ME-IR untill the next year when I would have to renew the MEP rating in the actual airplane but the thing is that my Caa says now that I would have to go for a lpc for the mep in a meP approved sim or the actual airplane in order to have the license issued by them. I have tried to get some advice from the official EASA website but all I got was an automated message with the case ID and nothing more two months later. Any advice is more than welcomed ! Thank you for your time ! |
The first question here is do you hold an EASA licence? If so why do you need to have a licence issued, as it is valid for life? Only the ratings in it have to be revalidated or renewed.
As you refer to revalidation I must assume you have a licence and that the CAA rather than the Examiner conducts the revalidation process. There is no requirement to relate the ME IR to a Class rating except that if conducted in a single it would be limited to SE. You cannot revalidate the MEP in a FNPT, only an aeroplane or a Flt Sim that replicates the aeroplane of which there are none for the MEP Class. You refer to an LPC rathan an IR Prof Check! Put simply you can revalidate the IR in the FNPT, but not the Class rating. |
Originally Posted by Whopity
(Post 10231346)
The first question here is do you hold an EASA licence? If so why do you need to have a licence issued, as it is valid for life? Only the ratings in it have to be revalidated or renewed.
As you refer to revalidation I must assume you have a licence and that the CAA rather than the Examiner conducts the revalidation process. There is no requirement to relate the ME IR to a Class rating except that if conducted in a single it would be limited to SE. You cannot revalidate the MEP in a FNPT, only an aeroplane or a Flt Sim that replicates the aeroplane of which there are none for the MEP Class. You refer to an LPC rathan an IR Prof Check! Put simply you can revalidate the IR in the FNPT, but not the Class rating. Thank you for your time ! |
Basically what I am asking is, can one revalidate me-ir in a sim every other year whilr my mep-ir are valid, |
Originally Posted by Whopity
(Post 10232056)
Both ratings are valid for 1 year, the IR can be revalidated in the Sim every other year, but the MEP will expire if not revalidated seperately in an aeroplane as the Sim is not qualified.
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Originally Posted by Whopity
(Post 10232056)
Both ratings are valid for 1 year, the IR can be revalidated in the Sim every other year, but the MEP will expire if not revalidated seperately in an aeroplane as the Sim is not qualified.
Thanks a lot ! |
I don’t understand why you would revalidate the IR without associating it with a class/type. |
Can you ask the CAA to show you where is says you need a valid class rating? In the UK you do not need an MEP - so much for standardization. I’ve done a multi pilot type rating and I’ve NEVER held an MEP rating. |
Originally Posted by rudestuff
(Post 10232832)
Can you ask the CAA to show you where is says you need a valid class rating? In the UK you do not need an MEP - so much for standardization. I’ve done a multi pilot type rating and I’ve NEVER held an MEP rating. |
and since I can’t contact anyone in Easa to speak about the subject |
Thank you for your replies, bottom line is a pc for IR will get you nowhere if it is not associated with a rating and the rule for revalidating in the sim on alternate years is only good for the IR part unless the sim is me approved also. Therefore as I have to apply for a type rating in the near future, I will now have to do the mep renewal in order to have it associated with the IR I had allready passed two months ago. |
Why do you want to have your license reissued? When you revalidate, the examiner just writes on your license that you have revalidated and that's it. Then your licence shows a MEP expiring the 30th of June 2018, and an IR-ME expiring the 30th of June 2019. Before the end of June 2018, you may revalidate or not your MEP, as you wish, the two things are different.
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[QUOTE=172510;10234694]Why do you want to have your license reissued? When you revalidate, the examiner just writes on your license that you have revalidated and that's it. Because in Romania, they want you to send the revalidation applications after the check so that the authority checks if everything is in order and then you have to pay about 200 euro for them to reissue the license with the new validity date :). Anyway I need to have some sort of ME-IR toghether as I am applying for a type rating so only IR won’t help. Thanks, |
Originally Posted by Whopity
(Post 10232868)
There is nothing in the regulation to say that you cannot revalidate an IR without having an associated Class or Type rating.
Applicants for the revalidation of an IR(A) shall hold the relevant class or type rating ... |
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