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justmaybe 3rd Apr 2017 12:44

IMC/IR (R) Tests
 
CAA info notice 2016/04 (Jan 2016) states Examiner must be notified and approved prior to test.
FE handbook (Aug 2016) says 25% training input does not apply, and no approval etc necessary. FI/FE could therefore test own student. Leaving aside best practice etc, what document applies?

S-Works 3rd Apr 2017 14:48

IMCr is not a notifiable test, just copy of the paperwork to the CAA and yes we may test our own student.

Whopity 3rd Apr 2017 19:01

The requirement to notify the CAA is for an initial test. This is based upon the assumption that as it is being added to an EASA licence, EASA rules apply, even though it is not an EASA rating.

memories of px 4th Apr 2017 06:51

Am i right in thinking this can also be taught on an owners aircraft outside the confines of an RTF.

S-Works 4th Apr 2017 07:49

Correct. It can.

S-Works 4th Apr 2017 07:50


Originally Posted by Whopity (Post 9728470)
The requirement to notify the CAA is for an initial test. This is based upon the assumption that as it is being added to an EASA licence, EASA rules apply, even though it is not an EASA rating.

Not according to the CAA! I was reporting initial tests and received an email back telling me it was not required as a national rating. I have not notified since and not had an issue.

Whopity 4th Apr 2017 12:14

Seems to depend upon who you talk to at the CAA. The IN which is still current says:

4.3 Designation of Examiners by the CAA
4.3.1 Where the procedure for designation by a UK ATO or UK AOC holder is not used, designation of the examiner must be requested from the CAA. The information specified in paragraph 4.3.2 below must be sent by e-mail to[email protected]. For these skill tests (which exclude CPL, IR or CB IR, but include EIR and IR(R)),
If they have finally recognised that it doesn't apply it would be nice if they notified the industry.

memories of px 7th Apr 2017 15:56

Is a SRA a valid let down aid, either used as the interim approach aid or for revalidation purposes, or does it have to be a pilot interpreted approach.

Whopity 8th Apr 2017 17:30


Is a SRA a valid let down aid
Yes, its Radar
See Stds Doc 25

Instrument Approach training
Applicants are to be trained in at least 2 instrument approach procedures using VOR, ADF, ILS, GPS, Radar or VDF (of which at least one must be pilot interpreted). Completion of a notified, recognised civil, or military, instrument approach procedure during training must be certified in the applicant's flying logbook. In this context, ‘notified’ means that the approach procedure is notified by the Authority in the AIP or by the UK Military or the appropriate aviation authority (if not in the UK) in their equivalent publication.

Note that GPS approaches are defined as those notified as above and flown using equipment certified for the conduct of such approaches in the aeroplane’s Pilots Operating Handbook or Flight Manual; overlay approaches or privately designed approaches are not acceptable.

memories of px 8th Apr 2017 20:26

thank you.


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