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supercub24

13th Jul 2016 09:38

EASA SEP differences

Can an EASA instructor self-attest the differences training of types within the class (SEP)?

Say I need to fly a Cirrus, and haven't before...

Can't seem to find anything clear regarding this in FCL.710.

Whopity

13th Jul 2016 12:33

The list of differences is given here As an FI you can only sign off the difference if you have it yourself. If you do not have it, you need to be signed of by an FI who has it.

Different "types" within the SEP group that does not involve differences requires "familiarisation" for which no sign off is required.

supercub24

14th Jul 2016 06:23

Thanks, makes sense. By "having it", I suppose that means as a type in the logbook? I.E.
Cessna 182 = SEP (land) with variable pitch propellers
Socata TB20 (vp/ru) = SEP (land) with retractable undercarriage
Piper PA-18-180 = SEP (land) with tail wheels.

I've got a bunch of hours in a C172G1000, but it is not specified anywhere that it's EFIS. Enough that it's "connected" through the a/c reg. in the logbook?

Quote:

(d) Whenever (D) is indicated in one of the lists mentioned in paragraphs (a)
to (c), it indicates that differences training in accordance with FCL.710 is
required.

Quote:

GM1 FCL.710 Class and type ratings — variants
Differences and familiarisation training
(a) Differences training requires the acquisition of additional knowledge and
training on an appropriate training device or the aircraft.
(b) Familiarisation training requires the acquisition of additional knowledge.

Is the contents of the familiarisation training specified anywhere in FCL?

Whopity

14th Jul 2016 06:35

Quote:

Is the contents of the familiarisation training specified anywhere in FCL?

No. It could be reading the Flight Manual

Quote:

By "having it", I suppose that means as a type in the logbook? I.E.
Cessna 182 = SEP (land) with variable pitch propellers

No need for the type; VP props, or any other difference is valid on any SEP, no expiry. For MEP it is type related and valid for 2 years.

foxmoth

16th Jul 2016 08:36

Quote:

By "having it", I suppose that means as a type in the logbook? I.E.

No, it is actually a sign off in your log book by an instructor for the appropriate differences training, just having a type in your log book does not cover it!

BillieBob

17th Jul 2016 08:53

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just having a type in your log book does not cover it!

It does if the entry(ies) in the logbook was (were) made prior to the requirement for differences training.

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