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maximus610 9th Jun 2016 19:04

Instructing the Night Rating
 
Hi folks,

do I have to be current (3 landings last 90 days) to instruct the NIT even I do

hold a valid IR (but not an IRI nor FI-IR privileges)?

Cheers

Mxms

Whopity 9th Jun 2016 20:45


A pilot shall not operate an aircraft in commercial air transport or carrying passengers:
A training flight is not commercial air transport, and your student who is a crew member, is not a passenger, so currency does not apply.

Whopity 9th Jun 2016 22:56

Which does not change anything, as neither condition applies!

BEagle 10th Jun 2016 06:45

It quite clearly means that, as one of the conditions for providing flight instruction for the night rating, the FI must have carried out in the preceding 90 days at least 1 take-off, approach and landing at night as a pilot flying in an aircraft of the same type or class or an FFS representing that type or class - or he/she must hold an IR,

Tell me how on earth you read it any other way, Whopity :confused:

Sleeve Wing 10th Jun 2016 08:37

It’s all just words really, isn’t it, like the rest of this EASA bullsh*t.

Why not just say the FI must be current ?

No wonder I don’t examine or instruct any more………!

maximus610 10th Jun 2016 10:35

I'm still confused whether with just my valid IR I can instruct the NIT (for

which I have anyway the privileges as FI) even I do have not the FI-IR

priveleges. :ugh:

MrAverage 10th Jun 2016 11:40

I have to agree with Whopity Beagle. This only applies if you're carrying passengers at night. A night rating student is not a passenger. The instructor can effectively do his "one at night" whilst instructing the student, who logs Pu/t.

maximus610 10th Jun 2016 15:00

Yes, I do meet the requirements

Level Attitude 11th Jun 2016 09:49

maximus610,
If you hold a valid IR then you do not need to have carried out one night landing in the previous 90 days (the fact that you are not qualified to teach for the IR is irrelevant).


FCL.905.FI FI — Privileges and conditions

The privileges of an FI are to conduct flight instruction for the issue, revalidation or renewal of:

(e) the night rating, provided that the FI:
(1) is qualified to fly at night in the appropriate aircraft category;

(2) has demonstrated the ability to instruct at night to an FI qualified in accordance with (i) below; and

(3) complies with the night experience requirement of FCL.060(b)(2);


This only applies if you're carrying passengers at night. A night rating student is not a passenger. The instructor can effectively do his "one at night" whilst instructing the student, who logs Pu/t
I am sorry Mr A but this is incorrect - otherwise there would have been no reason for EASA to include the paragraph FCL.905.FI(e)(3) at all.

To instruct for the Night Rating an FI must comply with the night experience requirement of FCL.060(b)(2);

The only case where, provided it is agreed that a student is a crew member not a passenger, this experience requirement would not apply is for instruction given to someone who already holds a Night Rating (Revalidation and Renewal not being applicable) - Such as someone requiring one night landing before themselves taking passengers and preferring to do that with an Instructor instead of solo,

maximus610 11th Jun 2016 12:33

Thanks LA, now is more

cleared.


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