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EASA PPL - Exercise 19 Basic Instrument Flight
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Could anyone please let me know if there is a minimum hours requirement for Ex 19 of the EASA PPL(A) syllabus (Basic Instrument Flight) or is it at the discretion of the instructor / ATO? Trying to understand what the minimum instrument training requirements requirements are for an LAPL holder adding a night rating but I'm not having much luck with CAP 804. Thanks |
There is no minimum training requirement in the syllabus, but at least at T scan to cover basic manoeuvres should be taught. If you have an ATO approved course manual that will have a suggested training time.
I would suggest that for a LAPL you give the same IF training as you would to a PPL before the Night Rating. |
Thanks for the reply!
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The LAPL syllabus does not include any Instrument flying therefore (a) (2) applies:
FCL.810 Night rating (a) Aeroplanes, TMGs, airships. (1) If the privileges of an LAPL or a PPL for aeroplanes, TMGs or airships are to be exercised in VFR conditions at night, applicants shall have completed a training course at an ATO. The course shall comprise: (i) theoretical knowledge instruction; (ii) at least 5 hours of flight time in the appropriate aircraft category at night, including at least 3 hours of dual instruction, including at least 1 hour of cross-country navigation with at least one dual cross-country flight of at least 50 km and 5 solo take-offs and 5 solo full-stop landings. (2) Before completing the training at night, LAPL holders shall have completed the basic instrument flight training required for the issue of the PPL. |
Thanks Whoppity - I had seen that, the question was whether there is a minimum hours requirement for the "basic instrument flight training required for the issue of the PPL" or if it is just "as required".
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It's 'as required' - which will no doubt confuse many Member States who seem to have a need to have a rule for everything.....:\
'So. Number 1 - Sit down'.........:rolleyes: |
TIMU , On the PPL syllabus we are teaching . We and [ we understand the CAA ] require a minimum of 1 hour for Ex.19 .
Certainly back in 1971 I had 1 hour on Ex. 19 , and I don't think it's changed . If wiser heads have more lawyer type knowledge , I'll stand corrected . rgds condor . |
Certainly back in 1971 I had 1 hour on Ex. 19 , and I don't think it's changed . Firstly, the 1 hour became 4 hours sometime in the 80s In July 1999 we adopted JAR-FCL where the 4 hours diisappeard and became Ex 19 as required We and [ we understand the CAA ] require a minimum of 1 hour for Ex.19 |
If one hour of exercise 19 was required for licence issue it would need to be signed off on the application form, as it isnt, there is not therefore a mandatory requirement of one hours instrument flying for licence issue
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/...5AFFenabld.pdf |
Since the taxy, pre take off checks, take off and departure up to (say) 2000ft need to be visual, as does the re-join, circuit and landing, I'd say it'd be pretty difficult to teach the requirement to any meaningful standard in less than one hour.....
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......and the slow flight requirement is not on the form either. The Head of Training signs that all requirements have been met, including Ex 19.
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SRG1157 contains the following statement:
I have found that the applicant's instruction and experience comply with Part FCL and confirm that all the required manoeuvres and exercises have been completed |
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