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BigEndBob 21st Sep 2015 20:50

Met officeGa page
 
Looks like it's finally going to be killed off.

https://secure.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/index.jsp

Anyone know of an alternative so that we can print off 214 and 215's next year.

Edgington 21st Sep 2015 21:27

They redesigned the page you need to create a new login.

General Aviation services - Met Office

BigEndBob 22nd Sep 2015 19:33

Thanks...should have read the third line down:O

BEagle 24th Sep 2015 07:20

I note that the availability of TAFs/METARS is now very restricted. At least you can still obtain FREE TAFs/METARS from ADDS - METARs, which is a US National Weather SERVICE uncontaminated by adverts or 'premium only' paywalls.

Whopity 24th Sep 2015 12:06

I raised the issue of the restricted TAF/METAR data and received the following reply:

Since the initial fact find we have invited a cross-section of general aviators to the Met Office to see what we have developed, and to take part in user testing. As a result we feel that we have created a product which is relevant and usable for you in the way that most of you now brief. This has been done in conjunction with consultation with the CAA to ensure that the product is still compliant with our regulated remit.

With regards to your concerns about only being able to view one TAF/METAR at any one time, please be advised that since upgrading our site we have received a number of feedback enquiries relating to this matter which are being collated by our Aviation sector managers. I hope this reassures you that your feedback is being reviewed by our Managers and will help to refine our service in the near future.
Looks like another "System Failure" and more feedback is required!

BEagle 24th Sep 2015 13:00

Hmm, I received the same response:


Since the initial fact find we have invited a cross-section of general aviators to the Met Office to see what we have developed, and to take part in user testing. As a result we feel that we have created a product which is relevant and usable for you in the way that most of you now brief. This has been done in conjunction with consultation with the CAA to ensure that the product is still compliant with our regulated remit.
However, I wrote back asking for a reply to the question I actually asked, so perhaps that will receive something other than a formatted reply?

Whopity 24th Sep 2015 17:27

There was no further response to my reply. We have the corporate answer, thats your lot!

BigEndBob 25th Sep 2015 21:59

Well tried logging in using my old details..won't accept.
So tried creating new login.
Won't accept as it says the e-mails I am trying to use are already registered.

I give up :ugh:

pembroke 26th Sep 2015 08:12

Sorry but I think this site is perfectly usable and has some good features. I assumed "a new site" and registered using my original e mail, plus a new user name and password. Re. the site, the interactive map is fine, TAF, METARs and airfield details are one click and for those that liked a regional list of weathers , use the map. Also, using map menu, the weather details are more comprehensive than before. For example it gives cloud <1000', very useful if you need to plan a destination alternate, ie comparison of TAF and METAR, or if you want to anticipate student flights if long airfield journeys are involved. PS, it's only a quick look this morning!

BigEndBob 27th Sep 2015 19:09

Well signed up and waiting for their e-mail reply confirmation.....
Nothing so far.
They don't seem to like me.

Whopity 27th Sep 2015 20:56


Sorry but I think this site is perfectly usable and has some good features.
Then please tell us how you can print a sheet of TAFS/METARS for an area without having to select them all individually, a time wasting process for basic information.

BigEndBob 30th Sep 2015 06:59

Well still can't get signed up. Is there something wrong with their site?
Won't accept old info. won't accept new login info.
Won't accept the e-mail addresses because they have already been registered. But still can't get in.
Why can't we use the old login info.
Why change something that ain't broke.

Whopity 30th Sep 2015 07:22

Its all dependant on the position of the Jetstream!

Genghis the Engineer 30th Sep 2015 10:08

It's in hangar 2 at the moment.

G

BigEndBob 13th Oct 2015 21:33

Well finally managed to login.
And yep just like everything else totally ruined.
Format laid out to satisfy a ten year old.
Where is the weather radar.
Why is it that everything has to look like Outlook.
Typeset that is hard to read.
All we need is a simple list as before.
Where are all the TAF's.
Have I got to type in each one individually.
So what if it remembers the last four, I want to see the whole country and get a gist of what's going on.
Just like everything else Aviation going down the pan!

Rainfall found!
I suppose the map features not bad.
Grump. Luddite.

Whopity 13th Oct 2015 21:38

Funny how we have not advanced since the Met and NOTAMS were hung on a nail on the Flight Planning Room wall!

BigEndBob 13th Oct 2015 21:44

All we want is information, not entertainment with fancy graphics.

I was really impressed with the US flight following having filed a VFR plan.
Weather, Notams and frequencies in a telephone conversation that lasted two minutes!

The Met map, you still have to click on individual airfield to see what's going on, whereas a list can be scanned in few seconds to get an overview of the weather.

robin 19th Oct 2015 13:44

Been on to the Met Office a number of times.

They sort of understand there's a problem, but have spent too much money not to proceed. They assume we'll come to like it once we've had some time to use it.

Sadly they won't be keeping the old version that works great in areas with poor signal coverage or when flashy graphics really aren't needed

Parson 19th Oct 2015 14:58

Why can't they just LEAVE THINGS ALONE......

Whopity 19th Oct 2015 15:32

The real problem is that the people who produce these things have no concept of what the end user does with them. They quote that it satisfies the Regulator who has nobody left who understands it either.

Two Half-Wits don't makea Wit!


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