Independence of Examiners
Breaking off from the "FE Insurance" Thread due Thread creep.
A PPL Student (for example) can collect all the paperwork from their ATO, including the all important "Recommended for Test" signature, and then go to any airfield they like and be tested by any Examiner they like. An ATO has no official involvement in the Test. Usually a student will ask, or even expect, for the ATO which they did their training to also help organise their Test; and ATOs will probably approach Examiners they know, which would also include some who are employed by them as an Instructor. I have no problem with this - It is, after all, how the world works. An Examiner should be an independent and impartial judge of a candidate's performance on the day. EASA seem to agree with this given the Part-FCL.1005 "Vested Interest" section - perhaps even too strictly given the No Training, no matter how little or how long ago clause. Therefore no Examiner (in my opinion) should be employed, as such, by any ATO and no Examiner should be "Approved by", "Associated with" or "Nominated by" any ATO - as this all leads to a reduction in perceived, or actual, independence. Over 18 months ago the UK CAA requested permission of all UK Examiners to publish their details. This National list should be published, with ATOs allowed to (or even told to) arrange Tests, for their students, using anyone they like from the National list and NOT having their own, limited, list of nominated Examiners. If the CAA still require a monthly return of Examiners used - no problem. |
Considering that you have to be an instructor to become an examiner, what do you propose, that you lose you job to become an examiner, something which is by no means a full time position?
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Considering that you have to be an instructor to become an examiner, what do you propose, that you lose you job to become an examiner, something which is by no means a full time position? I specifically said Therefore no Examiner (in my opinion) should be employed, as such, by any ATO states that the duties of the Employee will include the examination of that ATO's students. Basically I am saying that, to be independent, any Examining activity must be on a Self-Employed basis (even if the individual is employed as an Instructor) - whether the Examiner charges the ATO for their services or the candidate directly does not really matter. |
And why would those of us employed by an ATO then want to get into the hassle of registering as self employed just to do skill tests? I am perfectly happy with the fact that I am employed in my role and have no desire to register as self employed.
As HoT I will always try to use my internal guys before going external. It's called showing loyalty. And as HoT by testing our students it helps me keep an end to end quality check on the work my Instructors are doing. |
Very soon there will be no Examiners so its all rather academic. The new regime is set to regulate by price rather than experience or quality!
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