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REMAX11 18th May 2012 11:33

I have always wondered:

what is the avg fuel consumption for a C150/C152? can it run on mogas in EASAland?

cheers

Genghis the Engineer 18th May 2012 11:43

About 25 litres/hr, and not usually.

G

REMAX11 19th May 2012 10:00

Thank you Ghenghis!

I was wondering, as an all around aircraft, is there an aircraft with the following specs:

-run on mogas (STC EASA)
-ifr CERTIFIED (EASA)
-aerobatic, at least spins (EASA)


Thank you and take care

MadamBreakneck 20th May 2012 11:40

Genghis

I prefer a stick as well. For me. What about for a training aeroplane however, which was my question? Are there real advantages to a stick in a trainer?
As this is a thought experiment and you've already suggested undergear configurable for nose or tailwheel, why not also engineer this new training type with configurable stick or yoke?

It does lead me to the amusing vision of the instructor flying with a stick and the student with a yoke, though. :hmm:

MB

mad_jock 20th May 2012 16:19

Well its not unheard of for the student to have a yoke and the instructor to have a set of mole grips.

Although it should both be stick if for nothing else than to stop instructors from getting a wack in the nuts on the full and free check. Although it would be pretty easy to have a floating short stick to replace a yoke. I actually quite like being able to move my legs around without the stick getting in the way on nav ex's.

funfly 20th May 2012 22:36

And, don't forget a bloody strong nosewheel:=

seaduck 28th May 2012 14:45

Hey guys,

I would like a stick and a low wing design.

In my opinion one of the best training aircraft around is the katana.
It is close to your requirements.

Another really nice trainer is the aquila.
AQUILA Aviation by Excellence GmbH - Flugzeuge mit Leidenschaft - Galerie
It feels heavier, than the katana.

They both need between15 and 20l Mogas.

What do you think?


Cheers,

Chris

Mickey Kaye 2nd Jun 2012 06:13

One with overall running costs that are 1/2 what a Cessna 152 is.


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