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SRG1119C submission required?

Old 18th Oct 2021, 11:03
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SRG1119C submission required?

Hi All,

Quick query (possibly a stupid question). So I have a B737 300-900 rating on my UK ATPL(A) which I keep valid annually out of my own pocket (itís not my current type, but I keep it just in case Iím ever out of work and potentially need it).

Due to work commitments, this year I had to let it lapse by a couple of weeks and so therefore did a renewal instead of a revalidation (I completed my LPC on Saturday). As the rating has not expired more than 3 years the examiner has endorsed the certificate of revalidation on my licence.

I am just wondering if I have to submit an SRG1119C and SRG2199 to the UK CAA? or is this just in cases when an examiner has been unable to endorse the Certificate of Revalidation?

Many thanks in advance and apologise if itís a stupid question.
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 11:28
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The guidance on the 1119C says:

If the rating is present in Section XII of the licence and the examiner has signed the revalidation page in the licence, this Form 1119C is not required.
However; as its a Renewal you need a SRG1107 Course Completion Certificate and the Examiner's Report SRG2199.
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 12:52
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Thanks, although isn’t that submitted by the Examiner?
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 14:31
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Normally yes, however some Examiners give it to the candidate to submit.
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 15:11
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As there's nothing to be done with your licence the 2199 form should suffice. Although probably required, the fact that the rating only lapsed by a couple of weeks may also negate the 1107 requirement.
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 17:32
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Valid question with very succinct answers but doesnít this just show how stupid and unnecessary some of the CAA paperwork has become ?
Even an experienced professional pilot is having trouble getting his head around it.
This is one of the reasons I stopped examining. It was getting harder and harder to comprehend the involved complications every time we fill a form in.
Thread creep I know but hasnít the time come ......... ?
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 17:44
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Did you get an ATO (with the 737) to assess the training required prior to renewal? Even if none is required (there wouldn't be any) I think you'll still need the piece of paper.
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 17:59
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I did get the ATO (which was L3) to assess the training requirement, and they issued a certificate stating I didn't need additional training, which was based on the fact that the 737 rating had only lapsed a couple of weeks and furthermore I'm also in current flying practice on the B747 (so an extra factor involved in wavering the requirement for additional training).

Have spoken to the examiner and he has submitted the SRG2199 (but not the certificate - so I may send the CAA this just to cover my ass basically and keep them happy!).
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 18:10
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That should do it for you. The whole process is a pain in the arse. The examiner can sign the licence as it won't have moved onto the back of the licence. I can't remember if the CAA need sight of the ATO certificate but probably worth sending them a copy.
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