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IRI with expired SEP

Old 28th Aug 2020, 14:03
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IRI with expired SEP

Let's assume the following scenario:
Valid B737 and IRI ratings with expired SEP/MEP and SPA/IR.
Is it enough to teach IR in sim (FNPT II) only as IRI with multi pilot IR?


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Old 28th Aug 2020, 14:46
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In order to exercse the privileges of a Instructor Certificate you must be qualified to act as PIC of the aircraft. In the case of a FNPTII that would involve either a MEP or SEP Class rating. If you are teaching the IR you would be required to hold a relevant IR and of course a vald CRI(ME) if its for Multi Engine. The alternative is to be quatified as an STI.
FCL.915
Applicants for the issue of or holders of an instructor certificate with privileges to conduct flight instruction in an aircraft shall:
(1) for licence training, hold at least the licence or, in the case of point FCL.900(c), the equivalent licence, for which flight instruction is to be given;
(2) for a rating training, hold the relevant rating or, in the case of point FCL.900(c), the equivalent rating, for which flight instruction is to be given;

(4) be entitled to act as PIC in the aircraft during such flight instruction.
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Old 28th Aug 2020, 15:36
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Thanks Whopity for the info.
But what actually is 'relevant IR'?
According to appendix 8 (part-FCL) a holder of a MPA type rating (in our example B737) during a LPC also is getting credit for SE class rating IR. Or I didn't get the point?
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Old 28th Aug 2020, 19:30
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If you are teaching SP IR then you need to have a valid SPIR. If you were teaching MP IR which I think would only occur on a Integrated MPL Course then you would have to have been checked as a MPL instructor on the Sim you instruct on.
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Old 28th Aug 2020, 19:40
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The test is a simple one and independent of any specific authority. Can I jump in to the airplane and fly it alone on the flight profile I am about to teach ? If the answer is no then you can't go

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Old 28th Aug 2020, 22:18
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I think there is an anomaly in the rules here. An STI can teach in a simulator only, but I was told some time ago that a prerequisite to getting an STI was to have held an appropriate instructional qualification in the preceding three years. So you could have had an FI 4 years previously which you would have to renew in order to then gain an STI. If there was a medical issue then you (having been a ME instructor four years before) could, no matter what you did, ever get an STI.

Yet a 10 year lapsed STI could do appropriate refresher training and then regain their STI. Doesn’t make sense to me.

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Old 29th Aug 2020, 07:54
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Lots of anomalies in the rules, they are after all typical European Bureaucratic garbage. Nobody ever thinks them out!
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