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Brexit, licences and training

Old 23rd May 2020, 15:01
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Originally Posted by Peter PanPan View Post
Oh and not to mention the actual form SRG1104 duly filled out with all the ratings on it (5. Ratings Held), so not only did the licensing officer have the "big electronic pot" to refer to, the certified copy of my license but also the form SRG1104 listing all the ratings. Despite all of that, still managed to cock-up. Perhaps things will get more efficient following a no-deal Brexit?
Hi I know its some time since you posted about getting a UK national licence, did you eventually get any luck on adding your type ratings and IR?
Just sent off for mine and a collegue also his which came back without having a rating on and I got email from UK CAA saying type ratings will not be placed on to UK licence.
I guess will have to apply for third licence when EASA change over happens although I would like to exchange that to another member state first.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 19:09
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Originally Posted by justasmallfire View Post
Hi I know its some time since you posted about getting a UK national licence, did you eventually get any luck on adding your type ratings and IR?
Just sent off for mine and a collegue also his which came back without having a rating on and I got email from UK CAA saying type ratings will not be placed on to UK licence.
I guess will have to apply for third licence when EASA change over happens although I would like to exchange that to another member state first.
I did get a national licence which included an FI rating, however the IR was not included nor the aircraft I am currently type rated on. My guess is that since the aircraft I am rated on is an "EASA aircraft" and we're still in the transition period, the CAA cannot add it onto my national license - happy to be corrected though, as it is still a mystery after well over a year waiting to hear back from the CAA.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 14:22
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the CAA cannot add it onto my national license - happy to be corrected though, as it is still a mystery after well over a year waiting to hear back from the CAA.
152.—(1) Subject to article 172, the CAA or a person approved by the CAA for that purpose
must grant licences of any of the classes specified in Part 1 of Schedule 8, authorising the holder
to act as a member of the flight crew of a non-EASA aircraft registered in the United Kingdom, if
it is satisfied that the applicant is—
(a) a fit person to hold the licence; and
(b) qualified by having the knowledge, experience, competence, skill and physical and
mental fitness to act in the capacity to which the licence relates.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 16:25
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Aviation is so full of bullshit its untrue. A cessna is a cessna, why does it matter where my licence is held. So much BS red tape in this industry.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 19:50
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Regulation

Yes a lot of these rules are:
VESTED INTEREST DRESSED UP AS SAFETY
we are victims of this political nonsense
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 14:01
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If I transfer my license to an EASA state but fly in the UK , the CAA has said they are going to be issuing waivers for EASA license holders to fly UK registered aircraft after the transition period, but how will it work for exams etc. For example, say I needed a skills test as I didn't complete my 12 hrs per year, does this have to be done by an EASA examiner or can a UK examiner also conduct this test and sign it off?
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 19:03
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Originally Posted by Peter PanPan View Post
I did get a national licence which included an FI rating, however the IR was not included nor the aircraft I am currently type rated on. My guess is that since the aircraft I am rated on is an "EASA aircraft" and we're still in the transition period, the CAA cannot add it onto my national license - happy to be corrected though, as it is still a mystery after well over a year waiting to hear back from the CAA.
Silly question:last year I transfered my licence to Austria because of Brexit, but I have always intended to reapply for a UK national licence, I have looked many times in UK CAA website for the form used to apply for a national license, but I couldn't find it anywhere. Any suggestions as to where to find it?
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 19:17
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There is no specific form however; if you previously held a UK National licence SRG 1102 Application to Renew a UK Private / Professional Flight Crew Licence.
If you were converting to an EASA licence in the UK then SRG1104 has a tick box for issue of a National Licence; I ticked it and received a UK ATPL with everything on it for I believe £40.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 08:52
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Originally Posted by aviator2345 View Post
If I transfer my license to an EASA state but fly in the UK , the CAA has said they are going to be issuing waivers for EASA license holders to fly UK registered aircraft after the transition period, but how will it work for exams etc. For example, say I needed a skills test as I didn't complete my 12 hrs per year, does this have to be done by an EASA examiner or can a UK examiner also conduct this test and sign it off?
One of the great unknowns at the moment, depending on the political negotiations going on at the moment. If, as seems likely, we complete transition by leaving all European agencies altogether then we will cease to be EASA Examiners so only those with EASA licences and Examiner authorisations will be able to carry out tests/endorse EASA licences, in much the same way that I can't do licensing action for FAA licences as a UK/EASA Examiner. A fair few UK Examiners have already transferred to other authorities as a result. Time will tell!
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 09:00
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Remember that the transfer of SOLI to another EASA State transfers your medical records. You will then be subject to the other State's AMS for any medical decisions which are required to be made by the AMS.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 10:06
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But that will only relate to whether they issue you a medical certificate or not! No big deal.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 10:57
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Originally Posted by Whopity View Post
There is no specific form however; if you previously held a UK National licence SRG 1102 Application to Renew a UK Private / Professional Flight Crew Licence.
If you were converting to an EASA licence in the UK then SRG1104 has a tick box for issue of a National Licence; I ticked it and received a UK ATPL with everything on it for I believe £40.
I had a UK-issued licence that I transferred to Austria more than a year ago, but never had a National one, so I guess I'll have to try with the second option. Cheers!!
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 08:59
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https://info.caa.co.uk/brexit/flight-examiners/

This is from the CAA’s Brexit microsite accessed from their main site and describes the outcomes for eaxaminers on both sides of the table if we leave EASA.
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