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Restricted and unrestricted!?

Old 10th Jun 2020, 16:11
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Hi all,
Can a restricted FI(A) instruct in different ATO/DTO (with supervision from an unrestricted instructor in each of course)?
What about mixing different CAA? For instance having a Swedish licence, teaching in Germany under the supervision from an Italian unrestricted instructor. Does that make sense?

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Old 10th Jun 2020, 16:15
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Yes, that is the whole point of EASA. The process for removing the restriction does vary from State to State.
The DGAC in France might have different ideas about it.
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 10:16
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A couple of questions have occured to me on this topic:

1. Does sending someone solo after tailwheel differences training count? Done away from a DTO or ATO as a stand-alone FI and CRI.
2. Does training time and sending-solos in a microlight school count if done using an EASA FIC?

Where can I find the 'written word' on this in some regulations if there is anything written on it?
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 12:48
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1 Only students. Tailwheel differences training is only for licence holders. Of course, a stude can still do his basic training in a tailwheel..............................

2 I think they have to be PPL students (which raises another question - what about LAPL students?). Someone will be along shortly with chapter and verse.
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 13:10
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1. Does sending someone solo after tailwheel differences training count?
Count for what? In order to do differences training the person must be a licence holder so no FI involvement at all in any solo flight.
2. Does training time and sending-solos in a microlight school count if done using an EASA FIC?
No, the EASA regulation does credit experience on Microlights towards EASA licences and certificates. In the latest amendment to Part FCL, experience on 3 axis microlights may be credited towards the 12 hours required for revalidation by experience, but the dual training is only acceptable in a SEP Class aircraft.
FCL.035
(a) Crediting of flight time
(1) Unless otherwise specified in this Part, flight time to be credited for a licence, rating or
certificate shall have been flown in the same category of aircraft for which the licence, rating
or certificate is sought.
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 18:05
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Thanks, so instructing time on microlights does not count towards the FIC restriction removal time.

But what about the 'supervised solos' in a microlight school? That does not require the crediting of any flight time (which is excluded by the regs) so, arguably, could count towards the 25 solos that an FIC requires in order to remove the 'Restricted' bit?

Long-shot I suspect...
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 23:16
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Very long shot. All training has to be for an EASA licence. The purpose of solo supervision is to gain experience of judging students ability prior to solo fligfht. If the instruction for a Microlight licence does not count, then any solo associated with it has no relevance, because it is not experience countable towards an EASA licence.
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 07:17
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What about solo sign offs for the nppl(ssea). I'm pretty sure they used to be acceptable. Isn't this still the case?
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 08:32
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Thats an interesting question. EASA FIs can train for that licence in accordance with Schedule 8 Section 3 but it refers only to restrictions and not limitations. I don't recall seeing anything specific for the FI with LAPL only limitation. As you can no longer train for it on an EASA aircraft its probably academic.
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 10:17
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I certainly know of one organisation who teaches for the NPPL in a none EASA aeroplane and they even send people solo. And presumably they are still places that teach for the NPPL (SLMG) as well. Again not sure if the later would count.
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