![]() |
Approach angle vs. landing distance
A lot of the "old-timers" in our Company insist on going below the PAPI/PLASI on finals, in order to achieve a shorter landing distance (steep approach / STOL ops in a DHC8). I have a hard time convincing them that a shallower AA will give a longer ldg.dist. Are there any papers out on this / documentation of some sort? Our AOM is kinda avoiding the topic...
Maybe not the correct forum..? Thanks anyway! :-) |
Crossunder - 2 points for me:
1) Going below the PAPIs would surely STEEPEN the approach angle, unless you flare excessively and therefore 'stretch' the landing? A lot of PAPIs are set for long-bodies and should be ignored in small a/c in the later stages in favour of 'aiming points' once a safe approach has been established, of course. 2) AA v. LD is a matter of pure mathematics. Taking an AA of zero (ie tangential to the earth's surface) and you go on for ever! Taking an AA of 90 and you can 'plant it' veerrry accurately!:D Somewhere between the two is the 'happy medium'. I don't think that needs to be in a manual! |
In theory, a steep approach will provide a shorter landing distance, but this is not necessarily the same as a duck under the glideslope manoeuvre. Both aspects depend on defining and fixing some of the variables. e.g. landing distance required is measured from the threshold – from threshold crossing height (normally at 50 ft).
For a duck under approach, with the same aircraft, landing speed, flare technique, flare height, etc, the aircraft arrives at the ‘threshold height’ before the actual threshold (defining the landing distance required), this enables a touch down near the end of the runway. This apparently reduces the landing distance – feel good factor, but in certification terms, there is no reduction. However, there is the increased risk associated with destabilising the approach and eating into the obstacle clearance margins, which is a less safe operation. The touch down geometry resulting from a duck under normally gives a flatter arrival that for some aircraft / pilots appears to make landing easier. However, whilst the flatter arrival is perceived to give a more accurate touchdown the spread of error in touchdown position increases at shallow angles as described by BOAC. Similar arguments can be made for airspeed and the dissipation of energy but these involve more variables. For a true steep approach (>4.5 deg) where the glideslope angle is maintained until flare, and again with the constants as above, the landing distance is slightly shorter due to the GS origin (aiming point) being closer to the runway end and there will be less spread in touch down position due to any error in speed / technique. The certification of the BAe146 / Avro RJ aircraft on steep approaches resulted in a reduction in the actual landing distance required (AFM performance amendment). I recall that the benefit ranges some 80 -130 meters depending on the aircraft variant. These values resulted from the combination of geometry, aircraft capability, and flight test; the spread of values were due to test technique, and that the larger aircraft have a restricted GS angle and wind limits.
|
| All times are GMT. The time now is 02:48. |
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.