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RansS9 25th Oct 2009 19:18

Short coupled?
 
I have at various times been called "short arsed"...that I understand.

However, when an aircraft is described as "short coupled" what couple are they talking about and what particular aircraft characterisitics does it bestow ?

Any information gratefully received,
TIM.

Mad (Flt) Scientist 25th Oct 2009 20:04

It usually implies that the stabilizing surface(s) are close to the cg (or wing). I've heard it used in terms of both pitch and yaw.

It means that the surface has to be proportionately larger than if it were not "short coupled". It also means that the interference effects between surfaces will be stronger.

Eurofighter is sometimes called a "short coupled canard delta" which is alluding to the close proximity of canard and mainplane, and the resulting powerful interactions between the two.

F-22 might be called short coupled in pitch too, due to the very close proximity of wing t/e and tailplane l/e.

I don't think there's any particular aircraft characteristic as a result, it's just that the aerodynamics are more interesting.

RansS9 25th Oct 2009 20:28

On a slightly less exotic example than Eurofighter / F22 ...I've heard our Pitts being called short coupled..and that can get very interesting at times!!

Many thanks for your reply
TIM.

FlightTester 26th Oct 2009 21:39

Inertial Coupling...
 
...can also have some very interesting effects! The NF-104 was a classic example of unpredicted behaviour.

NF104 | Theory to Reality

Up to that point the AST was a typical airplane with static and dynamic stability and a normal proportional rate control system. From there on it became a space vehicle with zero stability and a fixed thrust angular-acceleration control system. In fact, it proved to become somewhat unstable due to cross-coupling of yaw and pitch from the gyroscopic effects of the rapidly rotating jet engine, long after the jet engine was shut down. This had not been predicted.

rsuggitt 2nd Nov 2009 14:21

FYI, 'short coupled' is also a term used for horses, which are short in the back. Ie the pelvis is too close to the shoulders.


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