PPRuNe Forums - JetPlanner cannot do PDP as per ICAO

Hi All,

Anyone here using JetPlanner?

Our company policy for PDP are well taken from ICAO.

http://ifalpa.org/store/doc9976.pdf

Reported to GSCC and account manager about this but the respond was :=

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JetPlanner can only produce this OFP using JAROPS Decision Point.

FUEL PLAN
GROUND DIST 2342NM AIR DIST 2291NM GREAT CIRCLE 2231NM CRUISE LRC
TRIP 29323 5:00 . . . . MIN FUEL 0
ISL RES 10294 2:00 . . . .
ALTERNATE 0 0:00 . . . .
HOLD 0 0:00 . . . .
MSF 39617 7:00 . . . .
TFC HOLD 0 00.00
TAXI 350
EXTRA 0 . . . . EXTRA CFR FUEL
ETOPS ADDNL 0 . . . . ADDITIONAL CFR FUEL
BLOCK 39967 . . . . FUEL LOADED
THREE NINE NINE SIX SEVEN KGS

FUEL PLAN WMKK TO WIII / Decision Point BITAN
GROUND DIST 2220NM AIR DIST 2234NM GREAT CIRCLE 607NM CRUISE LRC
TRIP 28340 4:54 . . . . MIN FUEL 0
CONTINGENCY 3% 764 0:09 . . . .
ALTERNATE 0 0:00 . . . .
HOLD 0 0:00 . . . .
MSF 29104 5:03 . . . .
TFC HOLD 0 00.00
TAXI 350
EXTRA 10512 . . . . EXTRA CFR FUEL
ETOPS ADDNL 0 . . . . ADDITIONAL CFR FUEL
BLOCK 39966 . . . . FUEL LOADED
THREE NINE NINE SIX SIX KGS
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They said they cannot do it.

Their competitor LIDO & SABRE definitely able to do it.

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8.1.7.1.6 Predetermined Point Procedure
When planning to a destination alternate where the distance between the
destination aerodrome and the destination alternate is such that a flight can only
be routed via a predetermined point to one of these aerodromes, the amount of
fuel should be the greater of (a) or (b) below:

(a) The sum of:
•Taxi fuel
•Trip fuel from the departure aerodrome to the destination aerodrome, via the
predetermined point
•Contingency fuel (as for standard flight planning)
•Additional fuel if required, but not less than the fuel to fly for two hours at
normal cruise consumption after arriving overhead the destination aerodrome
•Extra fuel if required by the Commander/PIC

Or

(b) The sum of:
•Taxi fuel
•Trip fuel from the departure aerodrome to the alternate aerodrome, via the
predetermined point
•Contingency fuel (as for standard flight planning)
•Additional fuel if required, but not less than the fuel to fly for 30 minutes at
holding speed at 1500ft (450m) above aerodrome elevation in standard
conditions; including final reserve fuel
•Extra fuel if required by the Commander/PIC.

The predetermined fuel planning is the greater of F1 or F2:
•F1 = Taxi + Trip APB + %(*) APB + 2 hours cruise
•F2 = Taxi + Trip APE + %(*) APE + 30 minutes holding

(*) contingency fuel as per standard fuel planning
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