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The96er 18th October 2014 22:00

A few Flybe crews when calling Menzies MAN just recently have been using the prefix "Jersey xxx calling Swissport Manchester" !! - A Freudian slip perhaps !!? ;)

backtrack_32 19th October 2014 00:38

Trust me, Jersey going at man to swissport would be a dream come true for the 'on the ground' workers there. One of the worst airlines to handle. Constant aircraft changing, while in the middle of boarding too. There is always a guarantee of one going tech on a morning and all the operation does is just keep pinching the next aircraft when it comes in and actually making Menzies look bad. Any handling agent taking it on would actually see what Sh!t they have to put up with handling them. They have about 10 arrivals in the 'waves' and expect them all to depart at the same time which just is not possible. People don't actually realise how much messing about the airline does which affects how Menzies operates.

On another l note I don't understand why this thread is actually open, it's just a constant bashing from either disgruntled ex-employees or people who just don't like working for them. At the end of they day the company pays peoples wages and if you don't like it, it's simple, you leave to another job or handling agent which would be just as bad.

legalize 21st October 2014 09:56

Seems like Swissport have won the national contract for Flybe. Not sure where this leaves Menzies at Birmingham.

kasuga 22nd October 2014 08:19

If true, I would imagine a lot of menzies staff will be taken on by swissport for next summer.

The96er 22nd October 2014 18:30


Seems like Swissport have won the national contract for Flybe. Not sure where this leaves Menzies at Birmingham.
The problem with theses 'National contracts' is that they are agreed by senior members of a particular handling agent with the heads of the respective airline for a fixed price. The problem being is that these contracts then fall on the individual stations to service when it may not be possible to make any meaningful return due to a higher local cost structure. Lets just say if true - Goodluck Swissport MAN :E

skysky 26th October 2014 00:02

talking of respect

how about, we shaft you all summer with no staff cause as usual we managers screw up.

then as a thank you for all you hard work which has not went unnoticed we will now take away the 15 min early leaving tolerance and reduce it to 5 minuets

legalize 26th October 2014 01:26

Swissport at BHX have now pulled the plug on the planned redundancies due to winning the Flybe contract. Whilst that is good news for Swissport staff its not good for Menzies as it means less people will be required through TUPE.

skysky 26th October 2014 08:05

Menzies have announced NOTHING, certainly keeping it quiet if its true!

groundhogbhx 26th October 2014 22:43

Try telling that to the Swissport staff Legalize!! We have been told nothing and people are finishing almost daily at the moment! :ugh:

kasuga 27th October 2014 07:59

Legalize, I do hope this is not just a rumour as it is peoples livelihoods that are being discussed, and to be honest you have a record of "dodgy" rumours :(.
Can you substansiate your statement as the final date for staff that are being made redundant is Fri 31 Oct.

TECHSEC1 27th October 2014 10:00

Legalize I sincerely hope that your post is not just a childish game as like the previous poster has said it is people's lives you are meddling with - to potentially give false hope with no substantiation is uncalled for and I hope you are never put in the position that some people sadly find themselves in this week.

If someone in Management at Swissport is reading this may I respectfully suggest that you talk to your affected staff to either confirm or deny Legalize's statement.

legalize 27th October 2014 16:36

According to my Swissport source who is an Emirates dispatcher and has also worked for other handling agaents, the staff that are going are the ones considered as 'dead wood' and the ones that the company felt were holding them back. So despite getting the extra work through flybe, they still do not want this Staff to stay.

TECHSEC1 27th October 2014 18:55

Legalize to call people you hardly know 'dead wood' is totally out of order. The only criteria Swissport have used to identify the people to be made redundant is absence - people cannot control their health.

I used to work within the industry, in fact our path may have crossed, luckily I got out as I have to say that it is not the same as it used to be - there is too much back stabbing instead of pulling together and supporting each other.

Like I said before I hope you are never put in the position of being made redundant - it is not pleasant.

groundhogbhx 27th October 2014 19:03

Legalize you really are gullible aren't you! :D

legalize 28th October 2014 19:35

@groundhogbhx

2 big announcements coming this Friday my dear friend. Have faith, indeed things are very clear within the diamond.:ok:

groundhogbhx 28th October 2014 20:17

Certainly won't be coming from the Swissport SM or his side kick as they are both on leave this week!

kasuga 29th October 2014 17:16

1. Flybe contract moving to Swissport ?
2. New route to N America ?

number1delta 30th October 2014 14:22

looks like peeple will be down the road tomorrow. shame the airport job centre has closed.

TICKERDEBOOOOOOO.

backtrack_32 30th October 2014 17:08

Flybe contract is going no where at MAN. Menzies are actually doing an ok job with flybe at man at the moment. Menzies at Man have actually turned down contracts at man such as MON, TCX as it would put them in a bad position. Maybe some one at MAN has finally thought with their head and not just thinking about the money.

legalize 31st October 2014 15:46

Hummmmmm. An interesting twist to the tale. Now this changes everything.

Bigbluebroxi 31st October 2014 18:27

Lets be honest, nobody who posts on here has a clue about whats happening with contracts.

An EK dispatcher as a source? Very good.

kasuga 1st November 2014 08:09

Well Legalize it looks as if the windows in diamond house may need cleaning as nothing was clear yesterday, no big announcements as you predicted :oh:

I eagerly await your next pearls of wisdom :ok:

groundhogbhx 1st November 2014 10:01

Legalize, as per usual you are full of !!!!! Everybody apart from you knows that announcements aren't made on a Friday, unless it's bad news! I seriously hope that you too are made redundant very soon and have others speculating about your job being 'saved'!.

groundhogbhx 1st November 2014 10:04

number1delta, everybody who knows you is fully aware that delta doesn't mean dispatcher! It's not often you are right, but you are wrong yet again!! The airport job centre hasn't closed, it has moved to Diamond House. I suggest you check out where it is because it looks like you will be needing it soon as the TUPE safety net has been removed and it is very unlikely that anyone would want to take you on when Menzies start losing more contracts!

number1delta 1st November 2014 15:56

Groundhog

15 years service, 2 airports under my belt. aint going nowere.:ok::ok:e

If you need a job i may be able to put in a good word for you with OCS.

groundhogbhx 2nd November 2014 13:16

I don't need a job number1dimebar, got more than enough to keep me busy. Just remember that TUPE doesn't apply anymore so when Menzies lose all their contracts you will be needing that job centre! Lets face it, Boz is the highest rated member of staff at Menzies and he doesn't stand a chance so you have no hope!

legalize 2nd November 2014 14:53

Bloody hell! Boz is still working at Mezies. Has he done more than 2 shifts without going sick!

That guy must have the worst sick record in the history of BHX

kasuga 2nd November 2014 18:42

Think you guys should delete your last 2 posts, its rather unpleasant to start mocking individuals by name :=

legalize 7th November 2014 14:39

Flybe announcement has been delayed due to a 3rd new handler who lodged a last minute tender.

number1delta 9th November 2014 22:46

groundhogbhx, did u say someting about Menzies loosing all their contracts? Well it hasnt happened yet and not likely to happen either.:ok:

Might be able to hook u up with a job in BSA if you interested

groundhogbhx 10th November 2014 09:38

Just wait and see number1dimebar, your colleagues seem to have a much better idea what is going on than you, so no change there. And you obviously still can't read and understand the English language, I have absolutely no need or desire to rejoin the 'race for the bottom' world that is ground handling. I have done my time there and I am now happily enjoying the outside world!

kasuga 11th November 2014 06:39

Legalize, come on then be a bit more specific, is the mysterious late bid from :

1.Dnata
2.Airline services
3.Asig

pray tell ;)

TECHSEC1 11th November 2014 21:46

Legalize there is no way a 'last minute' tender could be submitted if the contract had been awarded and an announcement was imminent as your 'reliable source' claimed.

A tender process is extremely strict miss the deadline and its curtains. Then again we are talking about FlyBe and we all know they will do anything to cut costs so much so that whoever is unlucky, sorry lucky enough, to handle them will probably do it for peanuts.

Like the previous poster I agree that the only 'new' handling agents could be Dnata, Airline Services and ASIG - I have worked with Directors from the first two would anyone like an introduction?

legalize 12th November 2014 15:15

Trust me, when an airline realizes there may be an option og getting even cheaper ground handling, they will accept late tenders. There are now 3 in the rat race

Menzies
Swissport
Airline services

and if you know the MD of the 3rd one he will confirm with u.

TECHSEC1 13th November 2014 00:10

Very interesting and very naughty of Flybe to potentially back track on what you and your reliable 'Emirates' despatcher thought was a done deal.

Business is business and cash is king but honest and above board is much better not underhand deals done last minute or behind the scenes.

Sometimes work needs to be refused if you get nothing in return from it. I remember it costing one handling agent at BHX money every time they handled a small carrier because a per seat price had been quoted and the aircraft was never full.

The airline industry was a complete pleasure to work in and I worked for three fantastic airlines, then I discovered handling agents which are a totally different ball game.

Good luck to whoever wins the contract - Flybe will definately want their money's worth and more.

kasuga 27th November 2014 16:54

Big announcement at BHX on 04 Dec, perhaps our friend legalize can enlighten us 😉

tickerdboo 29th November 2014 09:59

Legalize is a PLEB......

groundhogbhx 29th November 2014 19:10

Must be a relation of yours!

JB007 29th November 2014 19:55

I think enough!


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