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finewine 31st August 2011 10:48

Are you happy in your work ?
 
Ladies and gentlemen, do you still enjoy your job, whether it be operations officer, crewing assistant, baggage loader, tug driver, dispatcher or whatever ? Are you getting tired of needless rules, regulations and edicts ? Have you had enough of silly memos, petty bureaucracy and downright ridiculous attitudes ? Do the management get on your nerves all the time and seem to have little idea of the job the front line troops perform ? Are the demands and requirements of Health and Safety and Security going over the top ? Is your workplace populated by inadequate numbers of indians and far too many Little Hitlers ? Does anybody ever take the slightest bit of notice of what you're saying ? Are you fed up with having your strings pulled by too many people at the same time ? Do you rue the gradual transformation of responsibility into aggro ?

In other words, has the fun disappeared from going to work ????

For me, it has. After a number of years doing what I do, I'm sad to say I've had enough.

If you feel the same way, I'd be delighted to hear about it. :sad:

tehya 31st August 2011 12:12

yes thanks

merlinxx 31st August 2011 12:52

Fine....
 
Rise above it and become your own "Super, mega, opinionated super Numpty" then you can take on the world:ok: Not just your little handler at your little aerodrome:ugh:

boredcounter 31st August 2011 13:19

Fine
 
You bet it is nothing like it was when I started out, way back then, Aviation was fun. I guess, many other trades were too though?

I agree with your summary every inch of the way, however, as much as I hate my job, I find, in my company, I am in a great position and I hope many of you are too when pitching up for work.

Once the red tape has been dealt with, it is buisnes as usual.... A close knit team, getting on with the job, supporting each other, covering each other, stressing together, bantering, plain taking the p*** out of each other. What ever gets you through the 12 hours. I like to think, whatever has gone on, we walk out as friends after the 12, draw a line and start again

Kill that, I will agree 100% and bang out myself, to do God only knows what!

That's just my take from the Ops room where I am. It could be a Crew room, Line hut or a Hi-Lo and team waiting.


The industry, workwise has gone to the dogs, that's for sure, the characters who serve it, on the 'front line' keep me hanging on in there.

Just my 2p after 25 years and all the new fangled things like jet engines and rules and regs and departments with more Managers than Workers and targets and bonuses and beancounters and some idiot who decreed A/C should make profit. Whilst many aviation skills are deemed 'non-transferable', no one understands, the team spirit, the driving force for going to work, is just not welcome either?

I will stick where I am, amongst friends and if it is quiet, take the P*** out of the wheel re-inventers to pass the time, whilst getting everything from A-B as safely and profiably as I have always done.

Does that seem fair?


Yep, hate my job, go to work in a normal office? No way, never get to spend time with 'Proffessional Characters'



Bored

Friendly Dispatcher 1st September 2011 11:31

I could be happier but then so could everyone.



Like bored above me, it's the relationships with colleagues and crews that make it bearable. I think there's something about working shifts with other people that makes you both slightly crazy but also better friends, as opposed to people who do Mon-Fri in an office 9-5. It's only true friends that you can turn round to and take the p*ss out of at 5am in the morning and all through the night and walk out of work not wanting to kill each other. We're all in the brown stuff together. We all have a great working relationship with our based crews and it's satisfying to know that we both regard each other as some of the best in the network.

The endless red-tape, memos, rules and latest procedures all make it frustrating though I try to avoid getting worked up about them, much better to adhere to them and see the reaction on management's face when it backfires on them and causes a delay.

I could go work in some other industry but I wouldn't enjoy it as much. I guess I'm lucky that I still hold a little bit of awe in getting to work with aircraft. The novelty has worn off but every so often I remember where I am or watch the first departure lift off into the sunrise and think despite all the crap, I couldn't see myself working anywhere else. Job satisfaction means a lot to me, and as a colleague and I discussed the other day, we both take so much personal pride in what we do we end up working our asses off to help deal with the failings of the company with unserviceable equipment and staff shortages.

Yea it could be better and I could be happier, but until I'm certain I've found something else that beats it, I'll stay put for now. Besides, where else would you get so much downtime in work? Yes somedays we go in and get completely hammered, but how many Sunday earlys or Saturday late shifts do you sit around and do very very little? We worked out our pay per turnaround, and it's certainly a figure I'd like to keep from the beancounters!!

GLAbum 1st September 2011 18:35

take it you work for menzies too?:\

Crewing Gimp 2nd September 2011 08:36

The industry in the last 10 years has changed from the one I enjoyed to one I downright loathe :ugh:

So many people employed to run stats, manage no one and destroy T&Cs.

Your not allowed to have fun anymore :=

Sadly once you have done it for so long what else can you do?

kazzie 2nd September 2011 12:01

Yes I am happy. It could be better but could be a lot worse.

I used to moan and groan all the time. Then I found myself unemployed (not because of moaning haha) And went through months of struggle. then I really had something to moan about.

The way I see it now is that I could be unemployed. the whole economy is crap atm. I enjoy and take pride in what I do. So might as well make the most of it and count myself lucky I have a wage coming in.

I still love the job. As I say. Things could be better. but I don't let that get in the way of doing my job or my up beat attitude.

waco 2nd September 2011 14:33

Yep...very.

Took time to get here but I know when I am well off.

Just getting a bit old thats all..............

merlinxx 2nd September 2011 16:58

Twas fun.....

I joined this playground back in 1963, did me bit with UK Scheduled & charter carriers, 121 US carrier, did me bit in West & East Africa, middle earst, Saudi, SWA (Namibia). All a great deal of hard bloody graft, monumental room parties & brainhurtz:E

Nearly 20 years with BIZAV at a high level.

At 66, would I have changed anything ? NO BLOODY WAY:ok:

I did stuff people only dream of, been places dross (yup really !!!!y LOS in the rains), also wonderful places with great people who are still chums after 40+ years.

Keep with it folks, remember one thing "You are a member of the biggest and best club in the world" Where ever you go in this industry, if you don't someone, you know someone who does know someone:ok:

Said me bit now to past


JB007 2nd September 2011 19:04

I must be getting old too...

Agree with Waco...aviation has always been 'ups and downs', I think it helps to have seen a bit of both, I know when I'm well off too...

desertopsguy 2nd September 2011 21:22

I think we've all worked in some terrible places, surrounded by morons, at one time or another. My best advice to anyone in that situation is to bide your time and sit tight until a better opportunity comes your way. In the mean time, keep training, keep on educating yourself and rise out of your discontent.

Crewing gimp, if your job has become something you loathe then that's not good for your sanity or your health. Think how happier you might be doing something different. Easy for me to say I know, am not in your shoes. Although crewing is enough to drive anyone batty after a while.

As for me, ops has taken me to many interesting and enjoyable countries and just like Merlin I wouldn't trade any of those experiences for anything.

Finally, one of the little pleasures was always that early morning start before the mayhem began, the first sip of that nice hot coffee and that whiff of perfume and click-clack of high heels as the girls showed up in the crew room to sign on :E

junkfms 30th September 2011 10:47

Well, the lists is long...
For me, what bites me the most is to have some morons with little experience who could run ms excel better than the others think he's the shining gen and knows how to kiss the boss's ass to run the operations.

yup - it has changed a lot.
Need say no more.

opsjockey 30th September 2011 11:41

I think it’s the same in any business, not just aviation. The original poster mentioned things like management getting on your nerves all the time and not seeming to have any idea of the job the front line troops perform, Health and Safety and Security going over the top, Inadequate numbers of indians and far too many Little Hitlers, etc.. these things can exist from small family owned business to the largest multi-national corporations.
I wanted to get into aviation when I first left school I didn’t really know how, I started off washing planes and general chores at my local flying school.. a friend of a friend introduced me to the world of airline operations (OCC, flight planning, crewing) - not something I even knew existed.... off I popped back to college (evening classes) for a C&G course in flight ops and thanks to the same friend, I found myself as an ops assistant! Yeah, used to love the early years, dogsbodying around - ops, crewing, flightplanning, crew bus driving, out on the ramp, in the terminal, being pushed from pillar to post, 16 hour days but the people and the environment were second to none - I was thriving, getting stuck into everything. 10 years later, I'm managing a small department with a new carrier and brand new aeroplanes. Still love the environment, still get out on the ramp, still get the occasional trip away but more importantly I'm passing the knowledge I learned at the beginning to my fresh faced new joiners, I have few stories to tell and have seem some parts of the world that many havn't. Still friends with the same people (after all, this is aviation - the same faces keep popping up) and even working with a few I havn’t seen for 6 years +. I guess, as you get older and start to climb the ladder, you take a step back and maybe things arn't exciting as they were back in the day... although now primarily a mon-fri 9-5er things have calmed down a bit, now my life consists of a lot of meetings, emails , paperwork and conference calls... I still get out on the ramp, I can peer out of my office window which is parallel to RWY26 and watch the planes flying by, I'll pop down to the hangar to see the techies and climb all over a nice shiny jet.... yeah, it's a bit different now but I wouldn’t change a thing.

Typhoon650 2nd October 2011 22:14

I love my work. I get paid to be around amazing aircraft, work with a great bunch of people (even the managers), get to chat to very attractive cabin attendants and watch aircraft land when I'm waiting for another flight to land.
I aso haven't had to buy a meal since I started working at this job!:ok:
It's even a great job when there's four aircraft on the ground and 45 mins to look after all of them, the satisfaction of getting the job done properly and on time is huge.
Even when it's raining hard and windy enough to blow portable stairs across the apron, I wouldn't be anywhere else.:E


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