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groundhogbhx 23rd May 2008 11:02

Only the Station Manager and Airside Operations Manager, but they are retreating into T2 and shedding staff as well as work so OPS1978 could be right. Won't be too long now until they find out if that is going to happen!!

tickerdboo 23rd May 2008 12:32

Swissports pay offer for this year.........0%

pleass place votes in the ballot box......

legalize 23rd May 2008 23:26

"Swissports pay offer for this year.........0%

pleass place votes in the ballot box......"


Im assuming thats a joke or a typical bhx rumour. How can 0% be a pay rise?

groundhogbhx 24th May 2008 09:56

That's the point, they aren't offering one and the staff aren't happy.

beefster 24th May 2008 12:24

The offer is 0% on basic and shift
You dont lose the 1st 3 days sick as you used to
And a new bonus scheme which could be worth up to £300 a year(wow) then If you die your family will receive 1 years pay :ugh::ugh:

Looks like the best deal is to drop dead

We may have lost airlines but we are working harder than ever with less staff. Sure it wont be long before we have a day on strike or will all be looking for alternative employment

tickerdboo 26th May 2008 03:57

I think that a strike is in order, lets face it the whole place is going down hill fast, I dont know of one person who can say that they want to be working for Swissport other then to pay the bills..........

greuzi 26th May 2008 09:13

Oil and perspective
 
All,

There is no magic wand here whether you work for Aviance, Menzies, Swissport, Servisair et all.

With oil around 135 USD a barrel, airlines will struggle. Get set to see old fleets getting laid up particularly in the US where all sorts of old types are still flying. We will see a period of mergers, network reduction and ultimately less overall business for the handlers who will continue to fight for the business that remains. Airlines will squeeze every cent they can to offset their cost increases.

It is not all lost. Just look at BA's recent profit announcement despite the fuel surcharge fine and lost baggage long before the final hit which was T5. Imagine the figures without those problems and you see there is hope. The ME and China will maintain the overall growth in our industry too.

But there will also be more bad news as well..

http://triangle.bizjournals.com/tria...9/daily27.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...try.travelnews

Lets just all keep positive and weather the storm.

legalize 26th May 2008 22:07

Swissport Pay Rise
 
This sounds like typical tactics used by management. Next they will be telling you about how they are not making money and how they could close due to a strike. I use to work at LHR and my old company shut down. All workers (apart from management) were offered alternative employment with other handling agents.

The bottom line is swissport could shut, but the airlines will continue to fly!!

What managent dont realise is that silly pay offers like this do nothing but stir up more hatred and bad morale amongst the workforce. Looks like you boys will be roasting marshmellows at the picket line!!:ok::ok:

Whilst your managemnt are inside :{:{:{:{:{

groundhand 27th May 2008 09:04

Just for the record, what are management supposed to offer workers when their business is losing money, their customers are hurting and looking for cost savings and the industry, as a whole, is in turmoil?

Annual pay awards are all very nice but are not mandatory. Employee expectation is always that they will receive an annual award higher than inflation; customer expectation is that their handling charges will either not increase or will increase at less than inflation. The airport will increase charges as they see fit; the government will meddle and inevitably add to business costs.

From previous posts it would seem that the operation is not 'fat' in terms of labour; and labour is the biggest cost for a Ground Handling company. You can trim equipment replacement; but only for a limited period and this can backfire with much higher maintenance costs; you can reduce other overheads such as office space etc. but most GH's have been doing this for years and there is no flex left in their operations.

So I ask again, what is a reasonable pay award in this current climate?

OPS1978 27th May 2008 10:53

Swissport Pay Offer
 
From what people are saying I think we should go on strike Mangement have been getting away with to much the last 2 yrs working us to the bone sometimes not giving us enough hours between shifts, Not giving us enough staff or the proper training to do the tasks asked of us. I think industrail action would be the best thing we could do. If nothing else might untie the workers and get morale back which at the moment is around the zero mark:{:{:ugh::ugh:

legalize 29th May 2008 21:31

Groundhand

You even sound like management!!

Something along the lines of inflation is fair in this current climate. Id companies were not making money they would not be operating. For years now i have seen handling agents all over the uk abusing their staff to maximise their profits so they can fill their fat greedy bellies!!

groundhogbhx 3rd June 2008 21:30

I hear from my former work mates that Monarch have given Swissport 60 days. Will they pull it round or is it for real this time??

Black n Blacker 4th June 2008 10:21

the words swissport and training dont go togeather:ugh::ugh::ugh:

OPS1978 4th June 2008 12:33

Trainning at swissport what
 
I have been there 8 yrs and taught most of what i know myself or by asking captains from airlines to show me bloody disgrace :{:{

Sam1664 4th June 2008 15:11

I've also heard that Monarch have given swissport 60 day's notice to improve!

legalize 5th June 2008 00:47

These rumours have been doing the rounds for years now. Honestly, can you really see an airline whose OTP is well in the nineties leaving a handling agent to go to another one who will be concentrating solely on Ryanair at the moment. I know this is a 'rumour' network, but we have to look at things sensibly as well.

OPS1978 5th June 2008 08:38

Who's saying if monarch do leave swissport the would go to servisiar anyway could their be another new ground handling company coming into bhx?:ok::ok:

legalize 5th June 2008 11:43

ops1978

Your the only one thinking 'sensibly' Maybe a new handling agent will be for the best. Especially for your boys.:ok:

OPS1978 5th June 2008 12:26

Legalize re an extra handling agent all I can say is watch this space.If it does happen can see alot of old groundstar people jumping ship me included:ok:

BHX86 16th June 2008 11:37

Monarch
 
I heard a rumour yesterday at the airport that Swissport had been issued with an 'improve your performance' notice. Does anybody know if there is any truth in this and if it is true what the implications to Swissport are?


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