Sat 1

Handling company 1 for not controlling the check-in correctly and refusing the 34kg bag and failing to HEA tag the 2 bags?
Thats a no brainer.

..and there is the problem.....

The ramp agent may well have lifted an overweight bag, or many, over the duration of his shift; previous shifts and working life.
At the time of the injury he was lifting a 'within limits' bag.
There is no legality to the requirement to HEA tag - it may be good procticve, recommended practice, within the SLA etc. but there is no legal recourse for failure to comply.
Same for the 32kg max - or has this now been lowered to 25Kgs?
The ramp agent is responsible for 'assessing' the load he/she is amout to move.
The ramp agent is responsible for correct manual handling techniques.

...... and so it goes on!

I think we sing from the same hymn sheet re looking after the ramp teams.
They do an incredible job in a very difficult environment.

If only some of the airline senior management and handling agents' sales teams REALLY understood how some of the decisions they make in their offices have a real impact to the people at the sharp end.

..and maybe I've been around too long as well.
GH

You name names you go!

Get this together guys or no more thread. You are just not getting the message.

PPP

The big R !!!!
 

Well i never.......It's finally happened at servisair(ramp).....ramp staff being asked to cut their hours down to 30 p/w or go....I think the census of the people who got the letter is...GO!

It's a shame because there are some good team players who have decided to go.

Good luck with what ever you decide to do on the outside people.....

Because of the selection criteria insisted on by the union a lot of good experienced long serving members of staff now face having their hours cut or being made redundant.

Remember not every union rep has your best interests at heart.

And not every manager is your enemy.

Servisair redundancies Stn
 

Get your facts right Hawker its not the Union Reps that make people redundant the company Servisair make that decision.
The selection criteria used : short term sickness (odd days off),Disciplinary warnings,no service or skill level could have been taken account or the people made redundant would be still there.
The employees made redundant were on the top end of the pay scale (Team-leaders etc) on old Servisair contracts good sick pay and final salary pension scheme.
I do not think this coincidence this is a plan to get rid of high wage earners on good contracts to be replaced in the summer by poles on split shifts on new contracts.
This is a big cost cutting exercise, what a choice go on a 30 hour contract or your made redundant.:sad:
Those of you that are left standby for 4 and 2 or 6 and 3 have you got any b:mad:ks at Servisair stand up for your mates!!!
You let them get rid of the best Shop Steward you ever had you are now paying the price he would have never let this happen.:=

I did not suggest that the union reps had made people redundant, this was clearly a company decision based on loss of work, mainly due to airlines pulling out of Stansted because of increased landing fees. But.......

Fact 1: The company did not dictate the criteria used to the union. Both parties agreed it.

Fact 2: The company only wanted to take into account employee's records going back 2 years.

Fact 3: It was the union that insisted on taking into account employee's records going back 5 years.

Fact 4: By going back 5 years it put more long serving employee's in the firing line than it would have done if they had only gone back 2 years.

Im with you Demon, think i might save myself a few bob next month and go it alone. They even had the cheek to offer to sit in the "chat" and try save the jobs.....even after they put their members in the firing line. they gota go

Fact 3: It was the union that insisted on taking into account employee's records goin
 

Fact 3: It was the union that insisted on taking into account employee's records going back 5 years.



Please get your facts correct!.....they went back 3 years.....and yes i do know.

redundant...and thats the union
 

a quote from a earlier thread....employees that were made redundant were at the top end of the pay scale....lets hope airlines dont copy or there will be no pilots and no work for anybody.

nobody is getting the same story at servisair on how things were done....no change there then.

maybe minutes of meetings with the boss and union should have been taken and put on the wall....then every body would know the truth.

another quote about men having b:mad:ks and sticking up for others....i did slip on something in the carpark the other morning.


and as for getting rid of the best shop steward they ever had......its just shame he was not the best driver they ever had.

Tip of the week.

save your union fee and pay your car tax next year..it will help out when your on split shifts:ok:

HAPPY NEW YEAR I THINK!!

go for the jugular grizzler!!!
 

truthful on the outside with a nice funny bit in the middle.Keep it up Grizzler.:)

Servisair redundancies Stn
 

What your all need to remember is that Servisair are making people redundant for whatever reason, and they could have stuck by their employees for two months until the summer season kicks in when they will be recruiting again.
Servisair management must be p:mad:g themselves laughing why you are all blaming the union for the redundancies you are a disgrace no unity, no b:mad:s, you elected the Shop Stewards.
I do not find it very funny when people are losing their jobs.
The roster changes on the way( ie 4 and 2, split shifts) i hope you have found your b:mad:s and a bit of unity ,while you are all blaming the union the management are having an easy time and doing what they like.

I would like to wish the people made redundant good luck and hope they get fixed up soon with a new employer.

tgwustn......said....you elected the shop steward.
 

yes a shop steward was elected...but what choice was there.

it was like saying, how would you like to die...hanging,electric chair or firing squad......you choose what you think is going to be less painfull...but bugger it still hurts.

and yes i am very sorry over the loss of so many jobs.......the ones that have gone ,they can be likened to the ones that were picked up in the lifeboats when the titanic went down......the rest that are still there will go down with the ship...

SERVISAIR.I.P :sad:

Hey guys, dont like to hear about redundancies, especaily when we all know (and as mentioned before) Servisair will be taking on new staff in about 2-3 months but on a much lower payscales.
Its a vicious circle and this time it has come back round to Servisair, next will no doubt be Aviance.
Maybe we should all keep our ears and eyes open and help each other out with information on any jobs that are out there.

Good luck

R.I.P
 

For us old sea dog should plug up the holes, and do what we can and keep it floating. Mind you a backbone would come in handie, and help who,s left :ugh:

sorry to burst your bubble sat1 but it WAS 5 years........and yes....i do know 2 :8 good luck for monday :ok:

are you saying some one told me a porkie? Heavens above I feel all stressed out.On a more serious note, I honestly believe this is not the last of the redundancies.Any news on the thomson contract yet?

thomson
 

heard this morning they still have not giving an anwser yet we will have to wait and see also heard that they have got to give 90 days notice if they decide to go more problems to deal with never mind it will all come out in the wash:ooh:

did hear the other day that there are a couple of new airlines coming in to Stansted starting in the summer,. know one's a greek airline not sure about the others or who will be handling them. Anyone know more??

trap2....i did hear...
 

its all greek to me........i heard maxjet are starting up again on april the 1st.....laker airlines are making a comeback.....british airways have had a cunning plan, they are going to call themselves B.O.A.C. and run a small outfit called B.E.A on the side....the board of trade are going to buy stn back from the baa....the airport security are going to let us take a four pint bottle of milk to work so we can have milky coffees all day....and cornflakes....also NASA have said, stn is there number one diversion runway for the space shuttle....and the airport will be closed for a week over xmas 2008..........also servisair have said they are going to start a ground handling company that looks after there workers.........but i cant see that happening.
:=

smart arse!!
 

looks like it's goner be busy then!

Well if NASA want the Space shuttle to come and land at STN who do you think will get the contract to offload it!!!!! Some how i don't think Servisair will,only because Aviance will under cut them(as usual) considering they have more blokes than Aircraft!

And as for BA i don't think Servisair will touch them with a barge pole !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

trap2.....smart arse
 

yes, you could be right mate....best we forget the cornflakes.:(

how does this work then
 

servisair are undercut...nobody seems to like them....they lay the men off...another ground handling company employ the same men ...pay them less to do the same job only better.....strange.

tip of the week. there are plenty of jobs in poland now.

also if split shifts happen....we could spend four hours a day on here between jobs...cool
;)

hi griz
 

Nice to see you still have a sence of humer :D:D

Just checked with the tower... The Space shuttle will not be able to get a slot between 0600-2330z, dont get too excited guys!

servisair redundantcies
 

Well its finally come to this guys, dont know where Servisair are going but l wish u all the best, :ok: Iv fled the nest and it feels weird after seven years but strangely liberating for me going on to new pastures, feels like iv left my second family. who knows what the future brings good luck guys and girls be thinking of you .:D Lone Chock ;) xxx

You done what had to be done LONE CHOCK....Srevisair are in some trouble now and i believe that in the near future the situation that the company has gone through will happen again and probably worse than before.
Who knows what they are trying to think of next in the ivory tower...oh yeah....shift changes.
As i was told by someone from servisair that they need to be implemented to try and make things run a bit smoother with in the ramp(hopefully but grizzler may not enjoy that).....And i take it that the company have finally got the 6 blokes that they needed for night shift(well almost) so good luck to them on the dead shift( i know):ok:

Grizzler....and Smooth Runing Ramp.
 

not sure why you think i dont like a smooth running ramp... just because i like a GRIZZLE.......its just that some stls dont do smooth ......and with the amount of men that have been laid off i dont think the word smooth will ever be used on the ramp again.....starting from next week.......this is the beginning of the end.
:(

running smooth
 

come on grizzler dont you think when things have calmed down and all things have been sorted out it will get better im sure i hope im right and your wrong we will have to wait and see:ok:

Diamond and Grizz,

Oh happy days of yesteryear...history shows....
Space shuttle.
Been there, done that, got the STN teeshirt for that one.
Servisair did used to be the #1 ground operator.
Oh happy days....

Hope it gets sorted for you all.

Stansted Rumors
 

Any news on TOM and FCA contracts yet?

D-ABAA

made redundant at servisair at stn?
 

if every one who lost there jobs at servisair had not kept taking days off to go shooting ,fishing,or doing diy at home you would still have a job!the rest should thank the management that they had the balls to get rid of the lazy ones.LONG LIVE SERVISAIR

Got rid of the lazy ones!!!!!!!! Thats rich!!!!!!!!!!! I dont think you believe that for one second.......god help servisair if you do.
The next few months are going to be really interesting

Have Servisair kept the FCA contract or has that gone to someone else?

First Choice
 

Notice out from another company confirming they have won the contract at STN.

Where does this leave Servisair ?

Well if thats the case,look out everyone at servisair---more redundancies!!

Servisair redundancies Stn
 

Wozzel
Thank management thats rich,how many white shirts have been made redundant? all got good attendance have they?
If there was a problem with attendance good management would have sorted it before now.
This is a big cost cutting exercise thats why 30 hour contracts were offered.
When the summer season starts Servisair will take on a load of poles on worst contracts and sack them in October.
There were a lot of very skilled ,loyal, hard working people made redundant not lazy.
I hope all the all the people made redundant get fixed up with employment and those that are left good luck.

Tom & Fca
 

Servisair will NOT need any poles not now Swissport have won the TOM and FCA!

S/Air the end is very near!:}

D-ABAA

It looks pretty bleak from where i'm standing for Servisair at STN...Losing the FCA & TOM contract is one hell of a kick in the teeth for all the remainding ramp workers.....So i take it they are all of to work for Swissport(either side)

Had a little conversation with a person of the airport( but i won't say who ) and they had a meeting the other day only to be told that they are not down the road BUT have had a pay increase of 10% and another 5% to follow in June/July time...Well congrats to them... Maybe everyone should apply for a job there

Good luck to all that are or have left Servisair and may the road be happy and wealthy for them.

tgwu stn
 

if as you imply .that these people were the most skilled loyal and hard working.why did sair let them go?cos thet didnt turn up for work;phoned in sick;or went missing .i hope the ones lelt work as hard as i did for servisair.