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merlinxx 12th May 2007 06:46

B. E.
 
NIVA is still up and running. Back in the mid 90s the El Tambouly brothers had a dif of opinion, thus Hassan put his resources and backing into EJA. PM me for more if needed. I moved my support to EJA as I had known Hassan for very many years. NIVA was also an airline, though few people knew of this.

the bald eagle 12th May 2007 18:17

Merlinxx
 
Thanks for the info..me to moved to EJA with Dayaa as Nabils mob some what let me down royally with a medivac thru ASW.
I found NIVA ok with CAI & LXR but anywhere else and they were crap at best!

acmi48 12th May 2007 19:28

bald eagle-merlinxx

we use tiger aviation services.. not happy with system but pleased with their services for our airline

thks again for your experiences..

merlinxx 13th May 2007 17:38

acmi48
 
Hey Tiger are fine, I know the folks and yes I'd recommend them as I do for EJA etc, it really needs someone to visit CAI to se how they have to work, it's worth the time/money. I also use an Egyptian off shoot in Morocco called Airline Services Experts ASE, they are excellent for air carrier & BIZAV ops. If you need, PM for ctc data/name etc.

Moaiad 12th February 2009 16:54

HADID can help
 
Try using HADID in Egypt.

the bald eagle 14th February 2009 08:37

HADID
 
Why use Hadid?

They only do what everyone else does and that's use an agent

Besides Hadid have got very expensive of late

sirinx 14th February 2009 20:46

Jeppesen book 1, Entry requirements - that's where you will find the necessary contact info and a list of items required in the application, plus the requested documents (if any). Works for majority of the countries.

Moaiad 17th February 2009 08:59

HADID is the first supplier in the middle east
 
That's why I recommended using HADID.
My company has been using HADID for many years and we are so pleased with their services.

Junipah 24th February 2009 14:50

overflight
 
Does anyone know if the above mentioned Jeppesen book is around online somewhere for a cheeky download?

the bald eagle 1st March 2009 14:19


That's why I recommended using HADID.
My company has been using HADID for many years and we are so pleased with their services
Is that because you work for them?

Moaiad 9th March 2009 07:55

They are really good
 
NO. That is because they are really good

airops78 11th March 2009 07:56

Overflight permit questions
 
Hi all,

Can anyone out there clear up a couple of questions i've got reference overflight permits:
  1. Do you need to apply for overflight of a particular country, if the FIR over it is controlled by another country?
  2. If the UIR is controlled by another country and you are flying within the UIR levels (for example Rwanda's UIR is controlloed by Tanzania, however the FIR which goes up to FL240 is controlled by Rwanda) do you need to apply to the country that you are overflying or the one that controls the UIR?
  3. How far from the coast do you need to be before you don't require an overflight.....heard it may be 50 nm but not sure?
Many thanks

merlinxx 11th March 2009 14:51

Yes, you maybe in the published FIR/UFIR which cover many sovereign territories, but the O/F permission is for the Sovereign Territories. Check your charts for West Africa, and compare the FIR/UFIR boundries with those boundries of the Sovereign Territories.

Also if over water, BOM FIR is an example, you do not need a permit to transit the FIR if you are not within it's declared territory, ie the 'off coast' territorial waters, in that case a FPL will suffice (or should do) so ensure that the FIR centre is copied on the FPL at filing.

airops78 11th March 2009 15:01

Thank you merlinxx much appreciated.

the bald eagle 17th March 2009 19:23

Best bet if flying over places like West Africa is to apply for a permit for the countries earth that you are flying over and send a notification to the controlling FIR that covers the airspace

That should cover youe ass;)

TBE

the bald eagle 17th March 2009 19:26

Yeah & expensive with it


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