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750XL 3rd Aug 2013 10:20

I'm sure Swissport are legally allowed to sell individual stations off to other companies ie Dnata?

Airfrance7 3rd Aug 2013 11:55

Which is why Swissport are in the process of purchasing Servisair. Why would you want to sell certain stations to your competition?

andi_uk 16th Aug 2013 02:14

LHR T4:

Etihad moving from dnata to Servisair

irish-ramper 28th Aug 2013 23:06

Dnata LHR
 
Whats going on with Dnata at LHR? There's talk of redundancies and lost of more contracts! :bored: And with Swissport buying out Servisair, they are rumoured to be after Virgin at LHR! Is this the beginning of the end to Dnata short stint at LHR?

andi_uk 31st Aug 2013 01:48

dnata will never work at LHR !!!

They can't maintain the high standard of the brand and the quality service they provide elsewhere. The fact that dnata UK is purely handle by ex-aviance management is the evidence that dnata in this country will never have a future !

Management is CRAP
Work Environment is POOR
Staff NOT MOTIVATED


If they stay as a brand they will handle only EK once the contract will expire with ASIG and probably they will retain the QF contract because of the commercial agreements with EK/QF flghts.

Most of the other contracts are "Star Alliance" airlines - once all the star alliance members move to the new T2 ... dnata will be just a dedicated handling agent to EK.

Menzies Aviation will be appointed to handle ALL the Star Alliance Airlines in T2 !!!

The biggest contract for dnata at the moment is Singapore Airlines. Apparently they are not even happy how things are going with the ground staff.

So once they lose this contract they can only focus on "Cargo Business" with the dnatacity project and remain entirely a dedicated agent exclusively for Emirates Airlines.

750XL 31st Aug 2013 02:26

BMI have moved from Servisair to Menzies at ABZ I believe?

edi_local 5th Sep 2013 21:42


Originally Posted by andi_uk (Post 8022388)
Menzies Aviation will be appointed to handle ALL the Star Alliance Airlines in T2 !!!

That's simply not going to be the case.

Star Alliance Appoints ASIG Passenger Services Handler At London Heathrow?s Terminal 2

From what I've heard (and the above article suggest that) T2 will be split into zones and each zone will see a dedicated handling agency.

andi_uk 5th Sep 2013 23:00

We'll see.

irish-ramper 6th Sep 2013 10:38

I agree with your 3 highlighted points, it wont work until those managers and ex Aviance staff have gone. Until then it won't work. I think Dnata are running the ramp business down so they can get rid off dead wood staff and management, then rebuilt there business from scratch.

Menzies won't be the handler for Star Alliance contratcs in T2 as they have just lost Air Zealand, TAP, Aegean and Asiana as from spring 2014. Thats confirm from a Menzies employee it was on there notice board. ASIG is taking over the ground handling for those airlines..

Air Canada will self handle in T2. DNATA have 3 Star Alliance contracts as it stands what happens to them who knows.

At the the moment there is a lot of rumours flying around.

irish-ramper 6th Sep 2013 10:42

i think that part is true. But Menzies won't be the only handler in T2. Thats fact.

edi_local 7th Sep 2013 01:39


Originally Posted by irish-ramper (Post 8033829)
i think that part is true. But Menzies won't be the only handler in T2. Thats fact.

That's true.

Menzies did indeed release a letter stating that ASIG was taking over the airlines you mentioned.

T2 will be split in to zones which will see various airlines housed together. From what I gather ASIG will be running the front of house show for those airlines in zone D, which will be economy class check in.

Details are thin on the ground at the moment, but we could see a situation where, for example, Menzies (or anyone else for that matte) could handle those exact same airlines in, say, Zone A for premium check in. Swissport could also handle all the ticket desks for those very same airlines in Zone B while DNATA handles their ramp duties and so on.

It all seems a bit confusing at the moment but Menzies will most certainly not be the sole handlers in T2.

kazzie 10th Sep 2013 15:07

Asiana, TAP, Aegean and NZ are only lost for menzies at Check-in.. As far as we know, Menzies are still handling them in terms of ramp and ops.

However, That can change.

There are serveral rumours flying around about contract losses / gains currently..

speedbird_481_papa 10th Sep 2013 17:27

I know this is probably best in a separate topic but kind of fits in to above posts.

Any truth in this very speculative article?

Menzies stalking Swissport for possible take-over

Regards

Speedbird

Sir Herbert Gussett 10th Sep 2013 17:32

From the 18th September, 2001? Think it's fair to say what the outcome of the speculation was in said article. :rolleyes:

cjhants 10th Sep 2013 17:33

Article dated 2001!!!

cjhants 10th Sep 2013 17:34

SHG you just beat me to it

irish-ramper 21st Sep 2013 09:05

Redundancies
 
Redundanies is comfirmed at Dnata at LHR 86 jobs to go! With losing the Eithad in T4 i think its a plan to get rid off dead wood and people on big contracts ie Aviance/BMI contracts. Its needed as there is no team work or interest in doing the job!!

irish-ramper 30th Sep 2013 10:35

Good news for Dnata at Heathrow T4 Wins Philadelphia Airlines contract, Also with Qatar to follow. Qatar contact is a rumour tho. Its TBC. With signing there cargo and trucking at LHR and MAN its thought to include Ramp.:D

Blue-Shamrock 89 5th Oct 2013 19:06

Where do Philadelphia airlines go ?

Phillipine Airlines goes to Manila I guess :ugh:

andi_uk 9th Oct 2013 14:27

apart from the 23 Star Alliance Members - from T2 will be operating:

Aer Lingus
Virgin (Little Red)
Germanwings


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