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rusty_monkey 22nd Sep 2010 00:04

Military to Civilian
 
For those of you out there that are Ex Movers how does the Co-ord/DAMO job equate to the civilian sector and what prospects are there for people leaving the service?

Many thanks in advance R_M

MSF 25th Sep 2010 03:13

Hi R_M
A DAMO job would roughly equate to a Duty Officer position as far as pax work is concerned.
Few will recruit from outside for this kind of position.

I was 'lucky' enough to get a cargo DO position after I left, which didn't last past GW1 as I was oggy (after my 6) at the time and branson wasn't feeling very patriotic.

I left the UK and was DO for a couple of airlines and even got a gig as an ops controller with another one of bransons' efforts - mostly a 'right place at the right time' situation.

Luck will play a huge part, especially in the current climate.
Only 2 of the 5 airlines I worked for are still operating globally, the second , Aeroflot, a much smaller entity than it used to be.

My advice would be to retrain for something else as the industry is no longer worth it.
If you haven't left yet, choose your resettlement carefully.
If you are thinking of PVRing , Bastion can't be that bad - sure the hell beats Crawley !
When you see pilots and engineers being treated like dirt, you know it's time to pull the black and yellow handle.
One airline that I worked for actually took direct entry ops staff from Tesco -controllers, on their own after 3 or so months.

You will not work with the same calibre of guys/girls again and no matter how badly run you thought the RAF was you will not be prepared for the muppet show operation that SOME companies run.(good companies are like westabouts and almost impossible to get into).

It seems like the business is in a race to the bottom.
I currently work for a maintenance facility and it looks like we will arrive at the bottom first in our heat.

I have been a mover one way or the other for over 25 years and I have to say the civvy side sucked the most and the level of management , competency wise , would have to be consistently the lowest in any industry - with only a few exceptions.

Sorry to sound so negative, but thats the way I see it.
I have just finished 2nd year engineering which I am doing in my spare time, greeted with total apathy by my current employer.

rusty_monkey 26th Sep 2010 07:04

Many thanks, might just accept that extension of service after all!

FMCTEMPEST 26th Sep 2010 09:01

Stay as a Mover!!!!
I work in the ground handling industry and its not a good outlook.
If I could get in as a mover doing something worth while then I would be there.
Have even thought about joining 4624sqdn at least the money continues to come in and not have to worry about losing your job each year.

5552N0426W 26th Sep 2010 11:09

Stay in, at least you'll be paid and when the industry gets to it's feet again , have a rethink.

Nasty world out here.

:ok:

UKSquiff 5th Oct 2010 10:03

It's not just the Aviation Industry...same in every sector sadly

Fosters 5th Oct 2010 11:04

However, be aware that despite the Movs trade being fully manned the oggies are still being mobilised for stints in the "desert", and you never know how your employer will take to that situation.

Fosters

oscara 7th Oct 2010 15:53

R_M
I was a Mover for 9 years.
Have recently retired from a major UK airline after 37 years, mostly as a/c dispatcher,
over the years , standards have become virtually non existent, with only lip service paid to aircraft safety.
If at all possible, stay as a Mover.
Whatever you decide, I wish you well.


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