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groundhand 9th Mar 2009 14:28

Airside driver training
 
Anyone any ideas where I might find some details on how to train basic airside driving?

call100 9th Mar 2009 14:47

Each airport runs courses....At ours it's through the Safety and Compliance team.
If you require a licence you will be told how to apply. If you do not work at an airport you will not be able to take a course as far as I know.
Name the airport you are at and someone may be able to give a more specific answer..
Or did you mean you wanted to know how to carry out the training??? Again, your airport should be able to give you details.

groundhand 9th Mar 2009 15:36

call 100

I'm looking for a course, or course content, that I can take to an airport outside the UK (developing world with absolutely no current driver training). I wondered if the AOA or some similar orgainsation had a best practice on this but as I have no membership to such organisations I can not search their websites.

IATA do not seem to publish anything.

I can probably document most things required on this from past experience but something to validate my ideas against would be very useful.

skhwoody 9th Mar 2009 19:04

at NCL the fireservice do the training for AS driving

humper and dumper 9th Mar 2009 20:45

at NCL the fireservice do the training for AS driving

Since when, been there ten years, Fireservice AS driving, dont think so:confused:

mantug01 9th Mar 2009 21:12

IATA AHM 611 - Airside Personell: Responsibilities, Training and Qualifications.
Section 6.2 - Driver Training

This covers all areas that should be trained, from this you could build a very comprehesive course.

call100 10th Mar 2009 00:58

These people may be able to provide you with what you need.....
ASIG

Good Luck.

jap1 10th Mar 2009 16:36

I know theres at least one training company that does ths that can be found on stanstedairportbusinesses.com - if youre in the stansted region that is...

ReadyToGo 10th Mar 2009 20:54

AT NCL the fireservice do teach Airside Driving Courses... BUT

It depends which company you work for. When I was at Servisair, we had our own qualified trainer, but I know that some of the other companies don't, so have to have it done at the Fire Station.
I had to have my license renewed once, and I definately did my recourse at the Fire Station. IIRC the Airport Police and the Airfield Lighting crew were doing a refresher at the same time.

Its probably the smaller presences at the airport (Eastern Airways Catering, Emirates etc) that do their training with the Fire Station.

In terms of what you learn, its very basic, road markings, speed limits, height restrictions, driving around aircraft. Unless you're going to be going onto live taxiways etc... there really isnt much to learn, at least not at NCL. (Also the course at the firestation is largely theory, specialist vehicle training WILL be done by your own company)


RTG

Geezers of Nazareth 12th Mar 2009 15:17

From personal experience ... we were trained 'in-house' by our own training dept and did the standard (?) CAA/BAA test questions.

I agree with 'ReadyToGo' in that it is reasonably basic ... speeds, heights, restrictions, where you can go/not go, and so on. However, like any acedemic subject, passing the test does not mean that you're any good. You need a while to get used to the airport environment, learning the road layout, where everything goes to, how to get from one place to another when the most obvious route is blocked.

One comment that I would add - in the UK you need to already hold a UK driving license. They're not teaching you how to drive, they're teaching you how to drive a vehicle at the airport.

DAVYDAY 13th Mar 2009 14:21

Caledonian Support Services can help you.
 
Groundhand,there is a consultancy company in Glasgow called

"Caledonian Support Services Ltd"
That can supply all courses with regards to staff training including
Airside Driver training and equipment.They supply manuals and cds.


They also have Dangerous Goods,Noise Awareness,Manual Handling
and many many other courses and offer services to companies in the Uk and abroad.

Good luck.

ReadyToGo 14th Mar 2009 21:18

Actually, the more I think about this, the more I'd be surprised if there was a General Qualification that allows you to teach airside driving at any airfield. (Apart from the more specialist ramp equipment).

Surely the majority of the courses you'd be teaching would be very station specific. Certainly airfields vary a lot in terms of where and how you can drive, who has right of way, and what the local laws are.

Maybe the best way to become a trainer is to actually approach the station you wish to work at and approach them. As has been said, at Newcastle, the overall regulation is done by the Fire Station, at the BAA Airports its presumably BAA?

RTG!

tally ho old chap 20th Mar 2009 21:35

Try company called Alba Ground Handling based in Gla seemingly they are the best in Scotland for training quality etc

backtrack_32 22nd Mar 2009 00:02

AFAIK, at lba the fire service provide the training! same with RT

Cumulogranite 23rd Mar 2009 16:39

AOA do produce a guide. It issued at every course at MAN. Your problem is that this is driven ,as most airside driving courses are, by a mixture of CAP 642 in the main, with a little of CAP 168 in the mix for good measure. For the application you are looking at neither of these documnets will mean very much.

It seems that every airport runs some sort of course for training airside drivers, and I am sure that most here will agree with me that it is nothing more than following a few simple safety rules, and applying copious amounts of common sense.

On that basis, as there would not appear to be any legal framwork that you have to adhere to, then why not write your own around those simple principals??

groundhand 4th Apr 2009 08:07

To all contributors,

Many thnaks for the info.

AHM and AOA have what I need.
I appreciate all your help,
Rgds
GH

Elcabriado 4th Apr 2009 11:57

Rampside in Spain, most training is undertaken by the handling companies themselves. An HGV licence is a massive advantage. You can train on pushback immediately if you have one, even if you have never worked in aviation before.


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