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Magic Buff 23rd Feb 2005 16:04

CIRCUSAIR WHOOPS WHAT HAPPENED
 
I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT ONLY 3 NEW CONTRACTS HAVE COME TO LIVERPOOL SINSE THE EASYJET FIASCO, VLM AND WIZZ AIR WENT TO AVIANCE, AIR LINGUS WENT TO CIRCUSAIR.
2:1 TO AVIANCE IN MY BOOK, ALSO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FLYBE/RYAN AIR/AND EASYJET RUN OUT OF PATIENCE WITH THE CONSTANT MUPPETEERING AND ASR'S IN THE PIRATE SHIP NEXT DOOR.

Cheers Buddy 24th Feb 2005 06:08

Jetsream27 - Get your Facts straight!
 
Jetsream27

May I suggest you get your facts straight before you post replies on here - it'll make it less embarrasing for you.
Number of Ops staff to leave Aviance for Servisair LPL = 0
Number of Ops staff to leave Servisair for Aviance LPL = 9
Enough Said!
Aviance are far more professional and has a much better working environment.
What can I say?? Better Staff - Better Service to our Customer airlines.

lagerlout 25th Feb 2005 12:21

here here.

I wonder who gets preference ezy or ryanair when the summer fun begins. circusair are bad enough as it is now!

paulc 1st Mar 2005 11:02

as an occasional SLF user of SOU I can only comment that early am's are chaotic and summer Saturdays with 2 x 737 + A320 all on the ground at the same time is even worse. Baggage handling is poor with long waiting times even though the aircraft is very close. Have seen a domestic baggage go into international arrivals which did cause a few probems.

Magic Buff 3rd Mar 2005 07:24

Chill Out
 
With regard to the staff who are employed by circusair, I would like to say that they are all very hard working and conscientious people at Liverpool and have done well in very difficult circumstances, it is unfortunate what has happend over the last 18 months and I hope we can all find a little humour in it.

surely not 5th Mar 2005 13:29

PaulC; the closeness of the aircraft to the baggage reclaim is a benefit to the passenger only in that they don't have so far to walk. For the loaders it doesn't matter where the aircraft is; it will take the same time to offload 150 bags on a stand at LHR as it will at SOU. The big difference is that at SOU the passenger will be in the baggage reclaim waiting, whereas at LHR they'll still be on the route march to the baggage reclaim!
It also takes the same time to offload the bags onto the delivery belt, as the speed of the belt drives how quickly bags can be offloaded. This is set at an optimum speed which allows pax to be able to lift bags off the belt with relatively little effort rather than being dragged around cartoon style as they try to avoid their arms being pulled off!!

tall and tasty 5th Mar 2005 22:54

20-17

Unfotunately true about FCA they are moving 11th April 2005 from aviance but not at liberty to say where they are going sorry.

Always gave the best service ever, when I was online cos I made sure I did my job to 110% when I did it out there whether in the office or on line and that was the policy in the despatch. But with the changes when Go-ahead took over there were some losses as in any company of very experienced personal.

They have had changes including taking on the old Ops Director from FCA to be the new Aviance Ops Director at EGKK.

As to the others I am not sure but will ask and pm you if you would like to know

TnT :ok:

ops 69 6th Mar 2005 13:16

hi
 
well all the talk about aviance and how they are falling apart but not at liverpool they are just waiting for more business to come there way which it will so magic buff do not worry and cheers buddy you love servisair so much that there is a rumour on a free transfer in the summer look forward to your reply gmia

Cheers Buddy 6th Mar 2005 14:26

Ops 69 - What ya on about??
 
Ops 69

There is not a cat in hell's chance I will be off to Servisair this summer on a free. There are some great lads there but Ill never work for Servisair Like Magic Buff. Anyway they couldnt afford the transfer fee of £12.5million for me!! You on the other hand wouldnt even get a Bosman free transfer to Netto!

Best wishes
Cheers Buddy

jimbols6 9th Mar 2005 18:08

BMIBABY going to Menzies at MAN and the other aviance contracts are being fought over at the mo!!
The plot thickens!!!:suspect:

ops 69 12th Mar 2005 06:27

not good
 
this is indeed bad news thay should be winning contracts not loseing them has anyone any more info

Magic Buff 13th Mar 2005 10:08

YEAH WHATEVER
 
Well ops69, not trying to be serious are we?, anyway it's not all bad news, maybe this series of losses will provoke Aviance to get things sorted, as it is things seem to be going well in the smaller stations, it is some of the larger stations who are letting the side down, hopefully this will be rectified in due course.

Ckin Gal 21st Mar 2005 15:32

going well in smaller stations?
 
QUOTE:'as it is things seem to be going well in the smaller stations'

I don't call partially shutting a station down 'things going well!'

sorry but we're all a bit miserable down here :(

MAN_Dispatcher 4th Apr 2005 16:44

Aviance at MAN are nowhere near the size they were a few years ago (as GHI).

They recently lost Monarch, and have now lost the ramp for bmibaby. All the regular handling they have now is:

bmi (ramp only)
VLM
Virgin Atlantic
Delta
Turkish Airlines
KLM/Air France
Flyjet
Pegasus
Balkan Holiday Air
Air Atlanta

I've recently heard that THEY have given notice to Air Atlanta & Flyjet - can this be true?!

Also, there have been rumours that VS & AF/KL will be going to another handling agent. If these rumours are true, it's not looking good, is it??

ASCIL 23rd Apr 2005 07:31

Aviance in EGJJ
 
Aviance here in Jersey have pulled out from Passenger handling and are now only handling bags. They now do the bags for ASCIL. (See link below :ok: )

Who's Handling Who

nibor 30th Apr 2005 09:25

Can anyone confirm when the BMI contracts are up for negotiation. If memory serves me correctly part of the deal when BMI handling was sold off included a 5 year handling contract.
Correct me if i am wrong as it was a long time ago.

Cheers Bye

Alan Tracey 2nd May 2005 16:28

I am under the impression that a new contract, covering several years, has been signed earlier this year, at least for LHR and ramp handle at other stations.....

Fernando_Covas 2nd May 2005 17:35

Aviance at LGW are rubbish. I flew to Dominican Republic with first choice and aviance messed up my seat be giving it out to another passenger aswell as me. They had the attitude of "dealt with it". Very, very poor.


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