Crew screening at airports

[AI300ST]

Hi folks,
I try to find the regulation for liquid allowance for crews to carry on bord. Can anybody show me the reference please?

This is just that when we do go through the safety scan in Germany, Spain or France we are fine and in the UK they
let us throw half of our stuff in the bin.

Thanks for your help

[rudestuff]

An axe behind your seat and two fire switches next to you - but you can't take that contact-lens solution..

[Dufo]

UK has always been and will always be special, do not consider that place as any reference for aviation standards.
At some places in USA you don't even have to go thru security when operating (and I'm not talking about general aviation here), in EU most places are normal (no liquid restrictions, no shoes and belt off, no company ipads out of the bag), likewise in Africa and Asia.
Commission Regulation (EU) No 358/2010 addersses restrictions for passengers, not operating crews.

[cjhants]

I used to regularly go through LHR control posts as airside staff, and nearly always mixed with flight crews. Some security staff seemed to take delight in making it difficult for crew. I never seemed to get singled out for the same sort of scrutiny.
With a tools of the trade pass I could take plenty of dangerous stuff airside but not a bottle of water!

[Sleeve Wing]

Originally Posted by cjhants

I used to regularly go through LHR control posts as airside staff, and nearly always mixed with flight crews. Some security staff seemed to take delight in making it difficult for crew. I never seemed to get singled out for the same sort of scrutiny.
With a tools of the trade pass I could take plenty of dangerous stuff airside but not a bottle of water!

So it still goes on ?
In the past, on a stormy day reporting from the hotel at GLA, a stroppy Scots jobsworth informed me that my ID wasn't visible. I apologised, showed it and put it back inside my soaking wet uniform mac to walk out to my aeroplane. He shouted that it should remain outside. I put it on view again until I reached the door to go airside and then did up my collar again to face another soaking. He ran after me and proceeded to dress me down in front of other staff and passengers next to the crew channel.
I then "had words" and walked out to my aeroplane. He was last seen, with his apparent "manager", standing drenched at the bottom of the steps where I had the senior steward refuse them boarding. I had an aeroplane to get out on time and it wasn't going to be the easiest of trips.
On another occasion at Teesside, my crew and I were invasively searched (You know, for the blokes, fingers too far down the top of you trouser belt) to the degree that one of my cabin staff was in tears at the way she was treated. All this while some Irish guys with wheelbarrows working airside were passing unhindered along a parallel channel.
What's wrong with these people ?

[A and C]

Sleeve wing

You need to remember that the use of what little power these people have is the highlight of their day, they are stick in a dead end low pay job with no chance of escape.

It is therefore wise to let these people have their pathetic power trip and just move on unless the infraction is so serious that it warrants police action.

[lurkio]

The fully tooled up policeman will be allowed through provided he leaves his bottle of water landside. It has happened.

[B Fraser]

Around 10 days ago in Terminal 2 of a major airport somewhere west of London, three employees with airside passes were seen sharing and laughing at execution videos on a phone. I kid you not. My source is extremely reliable.

[meleagertoo]

The smug, bullying antagonism of the 'security' farce at Luton's crew gate was a gauntlet we all had to endure for years, An utterly disgraceful unprofessional display of Ultimate Power by people of the most suspect origins when it came to rational security concerns...Poachers turned gamekeepers would be the mildest way of describing it.

The crew where one had his risotto passed as acceptably safe while the other crew's rice pudding was deemed 'liquid' and thus explosive.

I kid you not...

And the 10 years I passed through there with a Leatherman tool every day after 11-9 and not one of these feckwits noticed it. Until one day my bag was searched due to a sandwich(!!) and it was 'discovered'. I correctly claimed it was a tool of the trade at the same time a builder was going through with a huge tool-box full of nothing that was searched. I made a fuss and was disciplined.
I trid to get security disciplined for chronic long-term criminal negligence for allowing a leatherman tool through for 10 years. It didn't work.

I was wrong, they were right.

At that point I realised that airport "security" is an utterly indefensible and theatrical farce, totally pointless, porous as a sponge and largely biased against honest, law abiding native British people, as was reinforced when my 82 year old mother was subjected to what amounted to a public strip-search by these thugs a year or two later. Should I be angry that she was white, female and 82 and they were of middle eastern/eastern descent and clearly full of self-righteous attitude?

Well, should I?

It's got fuggall to do with security, that's for sure.