Servisair / Swissport
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Just sit back and accept the fact you will all be wearing 'the ferrari pit stop kit' soon enough muhahahaha.....
Damn sure you just wouldn't sit back and accept a 20% pay reduction and huge loss in T&C's, or even total job loss.
Hope you get burnt in the sun
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Swiss port do not re fuel at LHR!
I wonder what exactly Swissport Fueling do at LHR then if they don't do fuel and why they have all those fueling vehicles based just off Bath Road
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Wonder if the Monopolies comission will get involved ?, as this takeover will give Swissport a very large chunk of the Uk handling.
They may find that they have to sell off some assets before the takeover is approved , look at BAA.
It would only take one of their competitors to complain.
They may find that they have to sell off some assets before the takeover is approved , look at BAA.
It would only take one of their competitors to complain.
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I didnt see Circusair shed tears when BMI binned their handlers to Aviance or Ringway to whereever or Aviance to wherever....
You lot sat on yer unionised asses and laughed because it would never happen to the mighty Billy SMART's Circusair...
Well it is happening and tbh it isnt before time.....
As to the fact you have to lower yoursleves to common name calling derives back to the neanderthal thinking that got the ever famous contract undercutting company to be sold out in the first place....
Oh and the sun always shines but dont worry lads I look after myself....
I didnt see Circusair shed tears when BMI binned their handlers to Aviance or Ringway to whereever or Aviance to wherever....
You lot sat on yer unionised asses and laughed because it would never happen to the mighty Billy SMART's Circusair...
Well it is happening and tbh it isnt before time.....
As to the fact you have to lower yoursleves to common name calling derives back to the neanderthal thinking that got the ever famous contract undercutting company to be sold out in the first place....
Oh and the sun always shines but dont worry lads I look after myself....
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Servisair/Swissport
The facts are the employers hold all aces these days and you can see why they do with people around like aergid who seem to delight in other peoples downfall.
T U P E is good as long as you ALL stick together, the employer has to give you 3 months notice to change your T & C then you can record a failure to agree and there will be a series of meetings after which you either take them on ie strike, overtime ban and work to rule or you agree to the change and accept new T & C.
If you all stick together you will win the day but be warned they will try and pick you off one at a time and the Managers will be working hard to undermind any action you might take.
If you agree to change you do not have to wait for three months notice, this happened years ago when Servisair lost the GO contract to Swissport and some Ramp guys agreed a change for a new job title of Team Leader and were getting less money than the Ramp guys who stayed on their Servisair contract.
Be careful aergid what wish for what goes around comes around.
Good luck to all Servisair employees stay strong.
T U P E is good as long as you ALL stick together, the employer has to give you 3 months notice to change your T & C then you can record a failure to agree and there will be a series of meetings after which you either take them on ie strike, overtime ban and work to rule or you agree to the change and accept new T & C.
If you all stick together you will win the day but be warned they will try and pick you off one at a time and the Managers will be working hard to undermind any action you might take.
If you agree to change you do not have to wait for three months notice, this happened years ago when Servisair lost the GO contract to Swissport and some Ramp guys agreed a change for a new job title of Team Leader and were getting less money than the Ramp guys who stayed on their Servisair contract.
Be careful aergid what wish for what goes around comes around.
Good luck to all Servisair employees stay strong.
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Servisair / Swissport
Well said tgwu. His/her day will come. Nobody sat and laughed at the aviance buyout, we might have some banner about it, but yet again, Christmas is going to be ruined for a large number of ground staff, whether it be through redundancy, or change of contract on less money. Only people like aergid sit back and publicly laugh in people's faces. Just a shame I won't knowingly be there when its his/her turn
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Servisair Menzies Swissport contract
Question: if I was on a servisair contract then tuped across to Menzies still on my servisair contract 4 years later but now servisair been bought by swissport where do I stand????
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Servisair /Swissport
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As i said in my post dated 9th August,any company can change an employees contract, but must give the employee 3 months notice or they will be in breach of contract.
If you agree to change of contract no notice is required.
Read my post dated 9th August covers all the points.
My advice would be give your Union Officer a call, if your Shop Steward is not much help.
If your in a strong position take the company on, but something you need to think about is, will there be any redundancies as result of the buyout if so they may get rid of the most expensive employees, unfair i know, but those are your options in my view.
Hope this helps, good luck all Servisair employees, looks like your between a rock and hard place.
As i said in my post dated 9th August,any company can change an employees contract, but must give the employee 3 months notice or they will be in breach of contract.
If you agree to change of contract no notice is required.
Read my post dated 9th August covers all the points.
My advice would be give your Union Officer a call, if your Shop Steward is not much help.
If your in a strong position take the company on, but something you need to think about is, will there be any redundancies as result of the buyout if so they may get rid of the most expensive employees, unfair i know, but those are your options in my view.
Hope this helps, good luck all Servisair employees, looks like your between a rock and hard place.
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Sorry guys if you think I am sitting in some Ivory Tower somewhere, but i have been there twice with the companies i already mentioned.
I knew alot of servisair guys who openly laughed at us
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Oh and when the TGWU & GMB got involved it was a total clusterf***k.
Good luck guys but eventually you will find it aint that bad on the Dark Side.....
Now that you are off your high horses take an impartial look at Servisair and you can see why it was so vulnerable to a takeover. It is a Dinosaur which was run by a glorified Binman
it doesnt take a genius
I knew alot of servisair guys who openly laughed at us
...Oh and when the TGWU & GMB got involved it was a total clusterf***k
.Good luck guys but eventually you will find it aint that bad on the Dark Side.....
Now that you are off your high horses take an impartial look at Servisair and you can see why it was so vulnerable to a takeover. It is a Dinosaur which was run by a glorified Binman
it doesnt take a genius
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Well I've just been talking to one of the ramp hands at Servisair and apparently Swissport have made a new offer of a fairly decent rise to the hourly rate BUT includes an overtime buyout for the first however-many hours.
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BUT includes an overtime buyout for the first however-many hours.
BUT includes an overtime buyout for the first however-many hours.
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Care to explain this in a bit more detail?
Last edited by Burnie5204; 9th Sep 2013 at 07:35.
Care to explain this in a bit more detail?
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I have no idea of the specifics but it normally means that they say 'we will give you a generous pay pack on the understanding that you will not be paid for the first X number of hours overtime you do'
I didnt get chance to ask about specifics as it was Slot 1 departures and the guy had to get to anothet aircraft.
I didnt get chance to ask about specifics as it was Slot 1 departures and the guy had to get to anothet aircraft.
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Servisair/Swissport/Menzies contract
To all staff affected WARNING if you are being offered something that is as one poster put it generous it means you are losing in another way.
Look at all the offer and not take the short term view.
The first question i would asking is overtime compulsory?
Check your contract and what is being offered you may have cover late inbounds or when a manager says so on a flat rate at 2am in the morning, if this the case may not seem so generous six months down the line and its too late and you have accepted the offer, but you can't find anyone who will admit to it.
Management may well word it a reasonable amount or for operation needs which pretty much covers everything and they will have you working flat rate overtime or not being paid at all, for a small increase in your hourly rate.
Companies only offer their employees something which means there it more in it for them than you.
The company is not going offer you something which will cost them more someone has worked out there is a saving for them but at what cost to you !
You will have Management lackies running around telling everyone what a good deal it is,double agents in smoking hut(i know who you are) reporting back.
You always get a few people taking a short term view and the first to moan six months down the line and will not admit they accepted it, we already having one poster saying its generous without knowing all the details.
You do not have roll over and accept the offer remember if stick together you will get a better deal Management will have lackies out trying to split you, i refer you to read my previous posts on this subject.
I work in the industry and know what goes on at management level and on and staff levels,don't blame poor old Shop Steward that is doing the job because no one else will do it and no one had the B
s to do it
Good luck together you are stronger and stick together.
Look at all the offer and not take the short term view.
The first question i would asking is overtime compulsory?
Check your contract and what is being offered you may have cover late inbounds or when a manager says so on a flat rate at 2am in the morning, if this the case may not seem so generous six months down the line and its too late and you have accepted the offer, but you can't find anyone who will admit to it.
Management may well word it a reasonable amount or for operation needs which pretty much covers everything and they will have you working flat rate overtime or not being paid at all, for a small increase in your hourly rate.
Companies only offer their employees something which means there it more in it for them than you.
The company is not going offer you something which will cost them more someone has worked out there is a saving for them but at what cost to you !
You will have Management lackies running around telling everyone what a good deal it is,double agents in smoking hut(i know who you are) reporting back.
You always get a few people taking a short term view and the first to moan six months down the line and will not admit they accepted it, we already having one poster saying its generous without knowing all the details.
You do not have roll over and accept the offer remember if stick together you will get a better deal Management will have lackies out trying to split you, i refer you to read my previous posts on this subject.
I work in the industry and know what goes on at management level and on and staff levels,don't blame poor old Shop Steward that is doing the job because no one else will do it and no one had the B
s to do itGood luck together you are stronger and stick together.
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Apparently the takeover has been referred to the european monopolies comission, however, management apparently think that the deal will be approved and go ahead at the end of this year ???
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The monopolies commission are looking at certain Airports eg NCL where SWP would be the only major GHA if the buyout went ahead...
I think the buyout is a done deal with a few issues to iron out tbh...
Also beware of Wolves in Sheeps clothing as I said in previous posts certain Unions will tell you this and that but when push comes to shove they will just toe the line and say 'its the best yer gonna get guys'.....
I think the buyout is a done deal with a few issues to iron out tbh...
Also beware of Wolves in Sheeps clothing as I said in previous posts certain Unions will tell you this and that but when push comes to shove they will just toe the line and say 'its the best yer gonna get guys'.....
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Apparently the takeover has been referred to the european monopolies
comission, however, management apparently think that the deal will be approved
and go ahead at the end of this year ???