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Old 7th Aug 2012, 12:27
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Technical question ;)

Hi Guys

Thought I would rack the brain of you guys and ask your personal opinions and company procedures regarding the Start Up of engines during the Pushback of "Ferry A/C".

I am a Ground Services Training Manager and have been a Pushback Operator for 20+ yrs and have always been told "never start engines of "Ferry A/C" during Pushback due to the increased risk of A/C skipping and jumping which could potentially cause a Jack-knifing of the Pushback Tractor (Towbarless or Conventional).


Reently 1 of our Customer Airlines have reversed their policy and stated it is now safe to carry out this procedure doing Pushback.

I am asking the same question in the Pilots section and just want to measure the different approaches to this subject.
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Old 8th Aug 2012, 06:05
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Why would any aircraft be dangerous to push back empty?

Why would any Airline backtrack on pushing out of a TIPO stand?

Both Ground and Airline surely have set procedures, and Ground have the final Ramp Mass of the departure, I do not understand why this is dangerous.
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