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Aviance, Maxjet
Spoke to a Aviance guy this morning and he says that they are not prepared for the Maxjet contract. Although there is a month still to go, he said that the Aviance management have not prepared for the contract yet. He said they havnt got the staff numbers and would have to cover it with overtime, also he said there was an issue with not enough steps to cover Maxjets, ie some in DH and on stand, not enough steps to go round.
But as always we will see.
D-ABAA
But as always we will see.
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P.S-I hope Sat 1 is well and kicking,love that person x
of course I am
dabba makes a good point about the lack of steps,I guess servisair could always hire their surplus ones for a modest fee!!
dabba makes a good point about the lack of steps,I guess servisair could always hire their surplus ones for a modest fee!!
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He said they havnt got the staff numbers and would have to cover it with overtime, al
He said they havnt got the staff numbers and would have to cover it with overtime,
Covering a new contract won by means of a serious reduction in price with staff on overtime does'nt appear to make sound financial sense...but hey this is aviation Will.
Covering a new contract won by means of a serious reduction in price with staff on overtime does'nt appear to make sound financial sense...but hey this is aviation Will.
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To whom it may concern!
Firstly i would like to concur with the honorable gentleman d-abba as to the the preparation and steps for the forthcoming Maxjet contract awarded to aviance, or as is now the case the lack thereof.
Secondly regarding the point raised by the honorable gentleman sat1 as to the leasing of servisair equipment to aviance, i think it would be a prudent if servisair refused to lease or lend any equipment, as losing a contract such as Maxjet would be significantly detrimental to them, whilst foolishly lending equipment to another competing business to help the knavish louts that work there try and act as slighlty sentient beings capable of wiping there own back sides!
You see back in my day the managemnt had the balls to say " heres a shilling, go and tell somebody who cares" but this greatly depends on the business acumen of the servisair management and to a greater extent the size of there balls!
I bid you a fond farewell, as im off fox hunting. Tallyho!!
Secondly regarding the point raised by the honorable gentleman sat1 as to the leasing of servisair equipment to aviance, i think it would be a prudent if servisair refused to lease or lend any equipment, as losing a contract such as Maxjet would be significantly detrimental to them, whilst foolishly lending equipment to another competing business to help the knavish louts that work there try and act as slighlty sentient beings capable of wiping there own back sides!
You see back in my day the managemnt had the balls to say " heres a shilling, go and tell somebody who cares" but this greatly depends on the business acumen of the servisair management and to a greater extent the size of there balls!
I bid you a fond farewell, as im off fox hunting. Tallyho!!
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To:the swissport gentleman with the HUMP
Why do swissport insist that the AA operation is running smoothly? Whilst operating on adjacent stands I see what really happens and that includes the first bin going down woefully late( first bag time and all that).Please can someone explain the 'hiccup' with the freight the other day?--or did that all go smoothly--I think not!!
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Please can someone explain the 'hiccup' with the freight the other day?--or did that all go smoothly--I think not!!
I take it from your comments you have seen the FBLB times for AA? Which day are you suggesting was so 'woeful'?
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Swissport insist the AA operation is going smoothly simply because it is. Simple as that. Not sure what you imagine you are seing from adjacent stands but clearly its not a clear view. Bag times are just fine and there are no problems.
Not much point in saying much more really. The facts and customer airline satisfaction speak for themselves on this one.
End of story and no malicious comment or intent will change that for those that actually know and care for the facts.
Swissport insist the AA operation is going smoothly simply because it is. Simple as that. Not sure what you imagine you are seing from adjacent stands but clearly its not a clear view. Bag times are just fine and there are no problems.
Not much point in saying much more really. The facts and customer airline satisfaction speak for themselves on this one.
End of story and no malicious comment or intent will change that for those that actually know and care for the facts.
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I have to vote with the Capt and Westy on this one.
I've heard no complaints from the AA staff or crews regarding the service provided by Swissport, in fact they have only praised them. The local AA staff seem to have great confidence in them.
I'm told there have been no delays down to the ground handlers, and when a change to procedure was required to address a problem that had arisen, Swissport put a new procedure in place. This is not to say the the entire Stansted operation is running how they'd like it to, just that Swissport does not seem to be an area of concern for them locally.
I can't say whether the above is correct, only that it has come from a number of AA staff members with knowledge of the matter. Should you wish to argue that I am making false/bias statements then please do not bother, as i'm not interested in being part of the petty Servisair Vs. Swissport squabble that seems to be polluting this forum.
One further comment regarding comments about Aviance not being prepared for the Maxjet launch:
I've seen contracts come and go over the years, and I don't recall any of the new contract holders having new equipment arrive more than two weeks before the contract starts (to do so would be an unnecessary expense). It should be of no concern that the equipment is not on the airfield as we speak, should Aviance not be able to source these items from another UK station which has spare capacity, i'm sure they've already signed a contract with a leasing company.
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I've heard no complaints from the AA staff or crews regarding the service provided by Swissport, in fact they have only praised them. The local AA staff seem to have great confidence in them.
I'm told there have been no delays down to the ground handlers, and when a change to procedure was required to address a problem that had arisen, Swissport put a new procedure in place. This is not to say the the entire Stansted operation is running how they'd like it to, just that Swissport does not seem to be an area of concern for them locally.
I can't say whether the above is correct, only that it has come from a number of AA staff members with knowledge of the matter. Should you wish to argue that I am making false/bias statements then please do not bother, as i'm not interested in being part of the petty Servisair Vs. Swissport squabble that seems to be polluting this forum.
One further comment regarding comments about Aviance not being prepared for the Maxjet launch:
I've seen contracts come and go over the years, and I don't recall any of the new contract holders having new equipment arrive more than two weeks before the contract starts (to do so would be an unnecessary expense). It should be of no concern that the equipment is not on the airfield as we speak, should Aviance not be able to source these items from another UK station which has spare capacity, i'm sure they've already signed a contract with a leasing company.
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with the suspension of share trading of maxjet shares how will Aviance continue forward?Will they survive?I mean that seriously--have they enough work to survive?Must be a very disconcerting time for them.
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Back again, was banned for a week for shouting so apologies to all concerned.surprised to hear about maxjet apparently not doing so well as i read on their website that they won an award for best buisness class airline 2007 and have just applied for another route lax to china.So what gives
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welcome back trap2.....mate .....dont forget no uppercasing. unless you talk to me and i dont give a hoot.
tip of the week... dont buy shares in maxjet with your redundancy money.
tip of the week... dont buy shares in maxjet with your redundancy money.
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S/air's looking very bad, apparently Avi wont employ any of the s/air staff who try and apply to them! yak breeding sounds good trap2, any other bright ideas??! 
Just want to add if Maxjet dont go under, they'll be begging to go back to S/air within a couple of months, just like EAF were .
Just want to add if Maxjet dont go under, they'll be begging to go back to S/air within a couple of months, just like EAF were .
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techjet, you can't be to intelligent
because it doesn't take to much to work out that aviance at the moment have very little ramp work so have a lot of surplus men sittng around which means that they will give maxjet a very good service.
did hear from a swissport chap that norweigian are thinking of pulling out of stansted can anybody clarify this,thanks chaps.
because it doesn't take to much to work out that aviance at the moment have very little ramp work so have a lot of surplus men sittng around which means that they will give maxjet a very good service. did hear from a swissport chap that norweigian are thinking of pulling out of stansted can anybody clarify this,thanks chaps.
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Not giving away too much but i work in a manageral position and have had this rumor confirmed by the airline themselves, It looks like next year could be a very quiet one for Stansted! 