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The reason you see more negativity than positive views about EK is for the simple reason that those with negative views are far more likely to spout off on anonymous internet forums than those who are fairly happy with their life.
I'm sure exactly the same happened with Air Canada or whoever you are with over there. |
Jet II
Jet,
if you are happy, or half happy do you mind PMing me? Thanks man |
Cap77
Normally once you are selectEd.they will make you sit for authorization interview to test your knowledge.then you have to sit for air law mcq and essay.until the time you get temporary approval for 6 months to certify.if you can't pass air law or essay then you can't get gcaa license.then you will lose your job eventually.if you make it pass all this you experience what I said.trust me your family will not enjoy that much unless you are from third world country and Dubai offers better than those person's home country.in your case I don't think so.you can't get rich but I m sure you can save like 3000usd a month with decent life style
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Good Advice
There is nothing stopping you taking a job with them and if you don,t pass any of the gcaa exams don,t worry about it, EK don,t care they will let you sit around for months on end doing absolutely nothing, just come in and blag it! ;)Take the exams, fail them a few times, before you know it around 1 to 2 years will pass by and you will have taken their money and done................well not a lot! Then you can say Bye bye! and move on Cheers easy!!!
:):DTake them for a ride......this is what they do to others!! Why not hey!!;) |
Station360
I would not count on this. After some guys lived this, clever EK changed the employment rules. Now you have 3 strikes to get your GCAA license. 1.fail : written warning 2. fail: Final 3. fail: out Good luck and keep discovering............................................ |
Hmm, dont know about that one!
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Originally Posted by h3dxb
(Post 6440205)
I would not count on this. After some guys lived this, clever EK changed the employment rules. Now you have 3 strikes to get your GCAA license. |
Don,t be daft!!
Don,t be daft they are not THAT clever!! No way will any warnings come your way if you fail :=.......you can fail 5 times and they don,t care!!.....after all you are dealing with the GCAA are they are a bunch of useless t@ssers anyway! just blame them for their incompetence! " its not my fault gov i,m sure i passed must be them":D
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EK Engineering Selected on hold
Hi Everyone,
I did an interview with EK Engineering back in Feb and was told I have been "selected on hold". The reason being I had to regain currency on a type. I have since completed this and have been told recently that they are just awaiting a vacancy and I will be selected. I am just wondering has anyone been in a similar situation or does anyone know do Emirates Engineering have a pool for new recruits (I believe they have for pilots). This is not a major problem I am just wondering does anyone have an idea of what sort of timeframe I could expect before I am selected. Any information would be gratefully received, Thank You, A330-2 |
I had the same. I did not get selected but was told that I was to be placed on Hold. But they did not say that if a vacancy arouse I would be selected.
But I have to say the interview was good and the UK Line Maint manager seemed a nice guy. I was expecting a grilling and the Line Maint manager to make me sweat!! I was dissappointed not to get it but hey ho..... I still love my job at the mo. c24 |
Was it CW who interviewed you?
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Hello to CAP77
Hello mate
I have read this whole tread and parts are correct about EK. At the end of the day you will get the courses. You will get housing and schooling and good benefits to travel the world for bugger all. At the end of the day its not all about the money (as the contractors keep on saying). It's about lifestyle. I have many friends in EK and enjoy the world under the EK umbrella of benefits. I understand Toronto is closing for EK engineers hence the reason you might be looking to come to DXB. Hang in there for the application. Don't listen to the average contractor that is single/divorced because of the money drug. |
@ A330-2
If I didn't know EK that well I wouldn't believe you saying...
... they are just awaiting a vacancy and I will be selected. We are so short-staffed I can almost not believe they put you on hold in the first place! Unless your application was for a specific outstation ofcourse since some stations are 'fully staffed' (according to EK). I also wonder why (not that it's the strangest thing to happen at EK) they interviewed you in the first place if theres no vacancy? Dubai has a massive shortage of engineers but things could only improve if we get more guys in. := Don't be fooled though, working for EK and staying in DXB is not a walk in the park. :} P |
My feeling for the whole recruitment issue is the fact that outstations are being closed. I.E. Australia and Toronto so I think they are waiting to see if they have anybody from that.
Also I understand alot of hanger bods are up and coming with approvals. It's all about the money at the end of the day |
Why are these outstations being closed? I know that the 380's that come into Toronto get a fair bit of work done on them there... Will this work be accomplished by contractors?
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Spikeboy , i would say that you are totally right ...
Basset hound , it is just outsourcing to save money and get guys to jewbai that are known by ek already ... Poor guys , "be obliged to" , a common practise from ek ... anyway , there are other solutions ... Some of them are not far ... Cheers. |
Listen to MATMAX He is right !!!! And Yes read the employment manual chapter 5 . RYFM guys and ask. And do Never ever get employment on an outstation. NEVER.
And AIRLINEGUY only ONE man is ruling :mad: |
Outstations being closed
How many EK Engineering staff do we have in Gatwick and how many flights do we have there per day?
Heard a strong rumour that EK Engineering in Gatwick is being closed down. Possibly to try and get more guys back to home base?:yuk: Makes one wonder if your station would be next!!:ugh: |
Hello, I have a question regarding this thread. When you talk about "engineers", you are refering to mechanics? The problem is, I'm studying aircraft construction at the moment, so when I graduate, I'll have a Master of Engineer equivalent university degree. The problem I have is, that I'll also be called an "engineer". I'm considering working for Emirates when I have my degree and I'm looking for people with experience in that line of work to share what it's like. Is there a section for "university engineers" like me as opposed to "mechanic engineers"? Does anyone know if Emirates, Etihad or Qatar would even hire university graduates without experience?
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Emirates Engineering
Dear All
I am looking at option of joining Emirates Engineering Line Station. Can anyone suggest how is it like working for ek. thanks:) |
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Which part of our warnings you did not understand ? :ugh:
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h3dxb , leave it !
look at where this guy is coming from ... i have seen some of them who were not even able to read the AMM and they were having the gcaa license ... exactly the kind of guy that ek needs ... not able to read and use their brain but "Sir , yes Sir" ... monkeys who are killing our job !!! just hope that he will never have an EASA License or maybe in uk ... |
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Yes Sir MATMAX will do so Sir :8 and Sir what is an AMM ? we have only NAN :ouch:
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So wotsaboutit
Whereas it may be perfectly understandable your indignation the guy keeps asking for inside knowledge when you guys tell him itīs not a good thing, you leave open the possibility of the rest of us inferring from your total dismissal that you are on the inside and donīt want any competition....??
Anyway, I too am curious about EK line stations and not being on the inside, I have no clue as to what the contents of what manual you should read to understand why itīs no good....perplexed and looking for enlightenment. |
EK line stations, like any airline will be on local terms and conditions, good or bad who knows.
EK did set up a number of line stations, but have since closed a number of them too. So from an historical point you could say that it may not be as safe and secure as you may think, most of it is being outsourced. I do know someone who works(ed) for EK at a line station, I believe the money was ok, but morale wasn't great and you have to watch your back. |
EK outstations are about the same as most other majors airlines - pay is generally pretty good but all it takes is a management change of heart and the station could be closed and outsourced - so no different to any other airline job really.
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another one closes today , north of the border.
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Sorry Jingli , but you are wrong.
A real major will always have their own staff because they do care about them and in return , their staff will give the best of themselves ... Outsourcing is just to save money ! In the case of this so called airline , they have a huge lack of staff at their base and they are trying to get outstations guys there , thats it. When you can not make any more money , you have to reduce your costs ... Everything with them is about money , do not forget it ! |
How am I wrong? - I dont know of any major airline in North America or Europe that only allows their own staff to work to work on their aircraft. Every airline outsources transits at some stations, EK is no different to anyone else.
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ek is different as they do not have the same costs as real majors ...
i do not know about North America but quite sure that ek outstations guys are not handling AF , LH or BA ... ek is not a major but a LCC ... |
EK
I knew the guy, who was responsible for outsourcing SYD. This decision was done without him. He had to lay off 14 really good chaps. As he got told to continue, he resigned, as he couldn't . As he left, the next one had to close his own station. So far to the "I can do it for 15% cheaper" rule.
England ? U R the next, as this guy interfered , he got investigated, as it was not his area. EK, is a shiny company and there are good engineers, but you will never have safety. All people , which are pro employees will be sooner or later fail. I know we will face a crisis in LAE's, in Safety, in Reliability of our loved Aircrafts, but I also know, that every manager, who starts to outsource failed his job. just my 2 cents :eek: |
Originally Posted by h3dxb
(Post 6815461)
but I also know, that every manager, who starts to outsource failed his job.
Because I certainly cannot think of any. |
I'm probably going to open a can of worms with this line of questioning, but, here goes.
Beside the issues already discussed here, I would like some factual opinion of other stuff that EK may or may not do well, such as, supporting your work output. That is, do they have adequate tooling, is the IT system useful, are the technician's competent, are there enough work stands, do you have transport to get from plane to plane, is there a free issue, how long does it take to get a part from store and etc. You get what I'm asking. These are issues that can determine if you have a good day or not, that is, are you bogged down with so many inefficiencies that it makes it impossible to achieve anything and drives you to drink way too much just to calm down. Be truthful please. |
line stations closing
Does this mean that EK stopped hiring new LAE for now until they accommodate their own staff from the closing line stations? Have you seen any new outsiders (not from the line stations) coming to Dubai lately? Thx
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like ek
Stop complayining of the company ,is good place to work and clotheng is wash for free.
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rennmax or rainman ...?
to the ones who are thinking to join the joke , here is one of your future colleague ... impressive ... no ?! |
Avionics grade 6 or 7.
any idea how much emirates enginer grade 6 0r 7 earn? do they have different salary scale for non european and european engineer?u mentioned about gcaa license,how about easa or faa license ?do they accept either of them ?any idea how long they take to clear? does EK help to achieve those? i gt an ofer for grade 6 ,basic 6580 and utility allowance 2350 and grade 7540 and utility 4350,,, is it sounds the same what EK engineer earns there? i was quite excited but I live in nz when i compare the value of money i was kinda shocked to see how much they are offering. but again i need some honest opinion about career advancement. I mean what are the chances that i go there and get FAA or EASA and look for better opportunities?
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can you not do the EASA while at EK
I herad about the GCAA license story so my question is can you not do the easa or FAA? what do u think?are they too hard to get ?generally how long do they take to get? I am thinking joinig line but nothing sure yet, the $$ is not convincing at all to be honest. Can you enlighten me how to advance my career if i join ? but again im still in thinking stage,
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