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spannersatcx 4th February 2011 11:51


Problem is the engineers do not tighten them up correctly, often just using their fingers
That's because they are only supposed to be tightened up finger tight!:eek:

Krystal n chips 4th February 2011 16:47

" i can assure you tommytug is nothing to do with me "

:hmm: The understanding of genetics is a complex and ever developing field....to the outside observer therefore, it can be confusing regarding the seemingly close intellectual capacity displayed by those of a simililar, if not incestuous, genetic flaw........

Tranwell 4th February 2011 17:31

Find a torque wrench which will accurately tighten to the usual 6 lb in. A tiny torque.

Tommythetug 9th February 2011 10:50

Clearly thats we find so many on our pre flight safety checks tramwell, engineers are not tightening them correctly:ugh:

Flightmech 9th February 2011 11:32

Doubt it. Probably a case of removing the one on the wheel to be replaced, putting it on the ground, then fitting a new wheel which has a new one fitted anyway. A failure to pick up FOD is more likely.

Tommythetug 9th February 2011 12:48

People should be aware of the dangers of FOD, next time i see a wheel being changed i wil be reminding them of the dangers, imagine a cap going into the spinning wheel on the front of the engine with the engine running! :eek:

Flightmech 9th February 2011 15:07

"The spinning wheel" I think you mean the fan or 1st stage LP compressor if being pedantic. I don't think many engineers would appreciate you reminding them on how to "torque" a valve cap properly. Has "The Hitcher" moved from Norfolk to Chesire.:ugh:

Alber Ratman 9th February 2011 20:17

This thread is very AirMech..

Cue Dunny

I'll get my coat!:E

hawker man 9th February 2011 21:11

This might help at least you dont have to remove the dust cap to check the pressure even the security guards could have one to save the Engineer some time.

YouTube - Aircraft Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) from Crane Aerospace & Electronics

MATMAX 9th February 2011 21:52

i am really surprised by the huge amount of professionnals on here who are able to f.ck a fly ...

SeldomFixit 10th February 2011 03:31

So many villages missing their idiots and only 1 PPRuNe. Tommy ( Walter Mitty ) Tugger - go home. Next time you leave the village, leave a trail of dustcaps to follow.:rolleyes:

grounded27 10th February 2011 04:26

How many times we have all found a tyre (with a tight valve cap) at 50psi 2 hrs after hitting the stand and dustcaps are what we are obsessed with to record posts! I tight turn offers a greater threat!

Most of us have procedures to check pressure on a schedule and have spare valve caps.

TROLLS PROCEDE!

The Chopper 10th February 2011 09:29

I can't believe this thread has attracted 197 hits of erm.. "Engineers" arguing over the function of a valve cap..

It's not the question but the answers that are painful :ugh:

Might be time to throw in the towel fellas and finding a more suitable occupation. "Would you like fries with that?"


Shouldn't this be in the spotters forum??

:sad:

Time to move onto a more stimulating thread!

forget 10th February 2011 09:37


... this thread has attracted 197 hits.
199 :hmm: ..............

vs69 10th February 2011 10:50

Jesus, is this still going?

I think we need the bloke who drives the honey cart to give his opinion on the matter,and maybe see what the guy who paints lines on the taxiways thinks about it.....

Dodo56 10th February 2011 11:10


Originally Posted by Tranwell
Find a torque wrench which will accurately tighten to the usual 6 lb in. A tiny torque.

FWIW, you can get torque screwdrivers that will give you the correct torque. Place I used to work in used them for tightening the valve cores (which strictly speaking are also supposed to be torque tightened). A bit picky though, and means every torque screwdriver has to be on the company's calibration register, etc etc.

Alber Ratman 10th February 2011 19:58

Can a moderator close this blasted thread?? It's done to death!:E

blackhand 16th February 2011 09:27

Mmmm - no don't close the thread, is interesting and yet amusing to consider the importance of the valve cap.
I would have thought that the impact pressure on large aircraft tyres is quite high and that the sealed cap assists keeping the tyre valve seated.

Cheers

Malcom 16th February 2011 15:46


and maybe see what the guy who paints lines on the taxiways thinks about it.....
Well, we need someone to secure the caps to the taxiway in case someone does find a loose cap & starts a long winded & pointless thread on here.

good spark 16th February 2011 17:02

this valve cap, is it on a conveyer belt?




gs

Cable Tie 4th March 2011 10:26

Where is fu&@#ng Hitcher
 
I had to run to stores today,because on my walk around I found my PRIMARY SEAL missing. Then I couldn't find the torque wrench............. Almost changed the wheel, then remembered its only a dust cap. Hitcher wherever you are bring back my cap. It wont fit on your Ford's tyre. A319 cap......sorry.

Alber Ratman 5th March 2011 10:44

This thread needs some sealing, by being closed!:p

Krystal n chips 5th March 2011 13:23

No, it doesn't need sealing...it needs to be torqued about in a professional manner.......:E

Alber Ratman 5th March 2011 14:53

It's been massively over torqued already.:E

Bushfiva 6th March 2011 00:04

If the thread is closed, is the primary purpose to keep the conversation in, or the nonsense out?

Perrin 6th March 2011 08:19

PERRIN
 
No. keep this going, by the way went into my hut at home I have 54 yellow valve caps to any line engineer so he can depart A/C on time!!!!!!!!!
Keep them up boys.
:ok:

Alber Ratman 6th March 2011 12:40

This thread is like the parrot sketch.. "It is Deceased!!":E

good spark 6th March 2011 15:01

sounds to me like its got to you mr ratman, best you stay away.




gs

Capot 6th March 2011 18:08

To avoid losing the little blighters, I have been accustomed to holding valve caps fastened to my tongue while using the valve; this is quite easy and done by creating a little suction. The method can be used for up to 4 caps simultaneously, perhaps more with a long and sinuous tongue.

Having read this thread thoroughly I am now concerned about several issues which are beyond my technical competence, and perhaps the wealth of professionals here could offer advice.

Firstly, if someone, perhaps a pilot, asks me a technically important question when I'm encumbered with the caps, the reply may not be very clear, and can sound like "uh oth". Now that we are introducing SMS, should this be considered a risk?

Secondly, is there a possibility of an adverse interaction between saliva, itself perhaps contaminated with a number of chemicals, and the gas in the wheel? If so, is that a risk, too?

forget 6th March 2011 18:52

1. Perhaps.
2. Possibly.

toolowtoofast 6th March 2011 19:14

i have scrolled thru the whole thread, and I can't see anyone asking - what is the release number/batch number for the cap? If it doesn't have one (ie - traceability), can the cap that the engineer finds in his pocket/toolbox/off his car be put onto an aircraft?

are you going to ground an airliner for want of a valve cap without a release note?

this question asked by someone who has a nice array of valve caps in his pocket/toolbox/car/bikes :E

Dodo56 17th March 2011 13:04

TLTF if you ask the powers that be, the textbook answer would be if it's not deferrable and you haven't got a correctly certified part then it stays put until you have. But as an engineer you know that don't you ;)

And yes I do know what happens in "the real world"

Oops sorry did I just bounce this thread? My bad :D


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