We are such LOSERS ?
 

:bored::{ Have a look at our list of threads, we are such losers !!!!! :{

Everyone else talks about the sht that affects their lives, we.............. we talk about crap.....:sad: ..aircraft specs.....:eek: ...fuel snags........:confused: ....

TALK about where the future, YOURS and THEIRS is going, talk about people not about frkn machines :ugh:

Err, we're engineers aren't we? Talking about (and designing / making / fixing / analysing) machines is what we do. And sharing information, so that nobody makes (or at-least repeats) problems or mistakes is what being professional is, at least partly, about.

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For once, Ghengis has said something sensible. :ok:

Just don't expect me to make a habit of it!

G

mmmmmmmmmm well :eek:

If you keep your heads in the sand soon you'll be talking about fixing aircraft on the net permanently, we need to secure our and others future NOW :ugh:

Some of us are quite happy with our jobs, conditions and futures, don't tar us all with your gloomy brush!!:rolleyes:

Okay Fixit (pulling head out of sand)
What are you on about?
EASA Pt145 proposed changes?

You're absolutley right Mr. Fixit. I'm not just an engineer; I'm also an Asian work importer.

Got any jobs you don't want over there? I've plenty of willing hands looking for an aeroplane or two to put them on. We've had a few from UK already, and we'd love to get our hands on some more.

He heh :E

Have you hugged an aircraft today:)

Much as many complain, I interview a lot engineers/mechanics who left aviation and want to come back. Once in the blood always there I suppose. (Does not seem to apply for those who joined aviation from another industry sector, they burn out and leave)

If I wanted to continuly moan and look for another job the day after I just got one, I would have become a pilot :E I just stick to fixing aircraft and talking about fixing aircraft and keeping them flying, so maybe I am a loser then as the thread states

For a tongue in cheek crack I seem to have raised the ire of many, good to see you are interested in your future.

If you're an australian LAME your system is undergoing massive changes DESPITE what everyone tells you get involved through CASA you all of you need to enquire then lobby.

EASA and like rule changes is just the beginning, get ready for no heavy maint in Australia.

Comments Denzil??????

Western Europe, Australia and USA third party heavy maintenance will be gone within the next ten years as work moves offshore (and inhouse checks will not be far behind). I read a report recently about the massive shift of 737 heavy maint to central america from the states, the US simply cannot complete. Some scary figures in the report and some very dubious practices being used by US companies to stay alive (e.g. up to 10 contract workers per supervisor) Australia is seeing the work migrate north to indonesia etc (been there and to see all the big 'western" carriers aircraft in the hangers undergoing checks is a scary sight (but don't get me started on quality of work issues)) and Western Europe has Ryanair maintenance setting up in Poland I believe and Luftanasa already in Hungary etc.
If its not the "western" high labour hourly rates (which somehow never seem to be in the workers pocket), its the other legislation that is not just killing heavy maintenance but any form of production work (e.g. i agree with health and safety acts etc but some laws make it seem the easest way to do work is not to do it at all). Appartently it is the service economy is the way of the future :sad:

Once upon a time, a few airlines got together and thought "Let's find somewhere nice and cheap to set up a maintenance base". The base was built and the country joined the EU. Once all the EU subsidies kicked in, the economy and hence salaries increased and now X years down the road Lufthansa has had to move to eastern EU. So no prizes for guessing what will happen in the future there?
Aviation has always been an industry on the move and what goes around comes around. The problem is, once you loose an industry it will be very difficult to rebuild it when it is required. The engineers that are leaving the industry are not being replaced. The wages on offer at the moment certainly do not encourage people to get into this circus. I would like to think that one day the operators will think twice before flying a/c all over the globe to find a cheap garage to get their jets serviced and set up closer to home again. Try calculating the cost of a late aircraft stuck in a hangar far from home. It does'nt take many to negate any finantial advantage in taking the a/c there in the first place.
Right, thats my moan over. I feel better now.