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stevef 27th Dec 2020 13:07

CAA Licence Certification Privileges - 6 months in 2 years experience.
 

FAQs
Privileges of a Part-66 licence
Part-66 Continuing Airworthiness Regulations

Is there a requirement to have 6 months’ experience every 2 years to maintain the validity of the Part-66 licence?

Answer:
No, the validity of the Part-66 licence is not affected by recent experience. The requirement of 6 months’ experience within the preceding 2 years ensures that privileges are exercised by certifying staff with sufficient recent experience.If you do not meet the experience requirement anymore, you lose your rights to exercise your privileges of certifying staff or support staff. The licence itself is valid 5 years from the last renewal. Only the certification privileges are affected by the “recency” of experience.
To regain your experience, you may:
either continue to accumulate maintenance experience until you gain the missing time required, or

  • Meet the provisions for the issue of appropriate privileges, which means:
    • going to a type-training course again, including OJT as necessary, or
    • when the aircraft does not require an individual training (aircraft belonging in Group 2, 3 or 4), pass a type-examination, including practical assessment (see GM 66.A.20(b)2).
Neither a short period of job training session nor an aircraft type refresher training are acceptable. Demonstration of experience should be made on the particular or similar aircraft and the definition of a ‘similar’ aircraft is provided in the AMC to 66.A.20(b)2.

If this requirement continues once UK CAA licence holders don't come under EASA Regulations, those who've been made redundant because of Covid might find themselves severely disadvantaged once the aviation industry picks up.
Anyone know more?


Non Linear Gear 28th Dec 2020 18:26


Originally Posted by stevef (Post 10955372)

FAQs
Privileges of a Part-66 licence
Part-66 Continuing Airworthiness Regulations

Is there a requirement to have 6 months’ experience every 2 years to maintain the validity of the Part-66 licence?

Answer:
No, the validity of the Part-66 licence is not affected by recent experience. The requirement of 6 months’ experience within the preceding 2 years ensures that privileges are exercised by certifying staff with sufficient recent experience.If you do not meet the experience requirement anymore, you lose your rights to exercise your privileges of certifying staff or support staff. The licence itself is valid 5 years from the last renewal. Only the certification privileges are affected by the “recency” of experience.
To regain your experience, you may:
either continue to accumulate maintenance experience until you gain the missing time required, or

  • Meet the provisions for the issue of appropriate privileges, which means:
    • going to a type-training course again, including OJT as necessary, or
    • when the aircraft does not require an individual training (aircraft belonging in Group 2, 3 or 4), pass a type-examination, including practical assessment (see GM 66.A.20(b)2).
Neither a short period of job training session nor an aircraft type refresher training are acceptable. Demonstration of experience should be made on the particular or similar aircraft and the definition of a ‘similar’ aircraft is provided in the AMC to 66.A.20(b)2.

If this requirement continues once UK CAA licence holders don't come under EASA Regulations, those who've been made redundant because of Covid might find themselves severely disadvantaged once the aviation industry picks up.
Anyone know more?

You old company should be able to get you a print out of proof of certifying roles vs types. That is proof of currency. If Flybe, that is a bit of an issue. The regulations haven't changed as the CAA has taken every T and i from EASA regs of now and it is UK law and regs until changed by the CAA or Government.

stevef 8th Jan 2021 00:13

I thought there might have been more interest considering how many LAEs have been put out of work over the past few months and there's (literally) nothing new on the horizon. Personally I haven't touched an aircraft in over a year but as I'm due my pension in two months it doesn't affect or bother me.
I feel sorry for those who were hoping for a career in aviation (in any role) and probably have little or no prospects because of the recent workplace/fleet cutbacks and an overflowing bank of unemployed experienced labour.

BluFin 9th Jan 2021 08:25

Don't confuse licence validity with recency, two different animals.
Whilst it is easy to see the published recency requirements within the regulation as a general rule organisations tend to be a little more restrictive as to the processes and procedures published within the MOE and this can catch people out a wee bit. So check with the MRO and their MOE as that's whats been approved for use.


WOTME? 9th Jan 2021 15:39

Luckily I retired just before the virus hit but my last 20 years were mainly as a licenced contractor and I found the recency requirement was largely dependent upon the quality department of the MRO.
I had one company refuse me because I only had a month of certifying on type in the last 2 years(although I'd just spent 6 months heavily involved in a C check as a tech rep) then another employ me on the same type a few months afterwards.

BluFin 9th Jan 2021 16:04

Exactly, it's dependent what's in the MOE as to meeting the organisation recency requirement.

Non Linear Gear 14th Jan 2021 23:13


Originally Posted by WOTME? (Post 10964165)
Luckily I retired just before the virus hit but my last 20 years were mainly as a licenced contractor and I found the recency requirement was largely dependent upon the quality department of the MRO.
I had one company refuse me because I only had a month of certifying on type in the last 2 years(although I'd just spent 6 months heavily involved in a C check as a tech rep) then another employ me on the same type a few months afterwards.

Not certifying as a tech rep. Currency is stamping, nothing else. I will only have a few dailies as stamping in a year. It is ****.

Non Linear Gear 14th Jan 2021 23:13


Originally Posted by BluFin (Post 10964183)
Exactly, it's dependent what's in the MOE as to meeting the organisation recency requirement.

It is so subjective.


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