Basic Experience Reduction
Hello,
Is aircraft painting relevant experience in order to reduce the total experience needed for the B1.1 license. Assuming I am self starter, I will need a total of 5 years of experience and I can see the experiene reductions are: 1. 3 years if passed a Part 147 course 2. 2 years if completed relevant national training (‘skilled worker’) What about experience as skilled worker i.e. aircraft welder, or aircraft painter, etc. No reduction applies ? Regards, Dave |
Hi Dave,
Sorry to tell you but painting experience won't count towards your B1 licence, the same goes for other specialist trades such as welding, NDT, etc. See below, unfortunately the authorities would not consider it to be relevant experience.
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No. Although painting is subbed out it is not actually classed as maintenance because the paint Company / Facility does not hold a Part 145 approval....unless you’re doing the (Part 145) maintenance attached to the paint job such as; removing wipers and drains, bare metal inspections, repairs, post paint inspections and acceptances, CofG calc’s, etc.
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You're right Rigga,
Although in my experience most paint facilities subcontract the Part 145 side of things out to other companies. So for example, an engineer would spend one day before paint preparing the aircraft, come in again after paint strip for the bare metal inspection and then a final visit after paint for the reinstallation of parts removed etc. The exception of this is of course Part 145 approved companies that also operate a paint facility. |
Originally Posted by Rigga
(Post 10737192)
No. Although painting is subbed out it is not actually classed as maintenance because the paint Company / Facility does not hold a Part 145 approval....unless you’re doing the (Part 145) maintenance attached to the paint job such as; removing wipers and drains, bare metal inspections, repairs, post paint inspections and acceptances, CofG calc’s, etc.
Actually painting is done i.a.w. the AMM / maintenance publications and the painting shop has the expertise even though a Part 145 has to release the work so I would argue that the experience as painter is aircraft maintenance experience. Obviously not only painting experience would be enough for the license hence I saw reasonable some kind of reduction scheme which I now understand does not exist. Anyway this is a different topic not related to the question and hope this thread is of help to other members |
To be classified as "Skilled Worker" the training and work you do/did should be acredited by the UK CAA, if not then its a No.
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Hello again Dave,
This is the bit that you need to follow (as per my previous post).
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Originally Posted by Aerodav
(Post 10738244)
Thanks for your answer. Well aware of the certification process and Part 145 implications....Actually painting is done i.a.w. the AMM / maintenance publications and the painting shop has the expertise even though a Part 145 has to release the work so I would argue that the experience as painter is aircraft maintenance experience.
I have no doubt that the capabilities of most painters within their trade cannot be replicated in the slightest by most engineers of any kind but, as stated earlier, that does not make their job classified as ‘Skilled Work’ in many engineering and maintenance industries. I genuinely wish you the best of luck in obtaining your goal of an engineers licence and I know the road to success is always strewn with rocks in your way. But the only way through is to clear them away, one by one. |
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