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Terry McCassey 13th Mar 2015 12:19

DC10 slats
 
I often lurk in the background of this wonderful forum and sadly contribute little, I am however in a bit of hot water and in need of a bit of help. The only publications I have got to show for my time on the DC10 as a type rated DC10 Engineer are 2 LAMM schematics, one for a GK customer -30 series and the other a TK customer for the -10. I have been asked to do a private presentation of my experience on type whilst working at a major airport south of London in the 70's/80's. I have been steamrollered into having it done by Monday. I ask if anyone out there can let me have some AMM 27-83-XX stuff for slat rigging or any other presentable diagrams for the system description and operation. This is purely for the purpose of a demonstration in a private viewing place and not for circulation or distribution. It goes without saying, any assistance would be very much appreciated in helping me through this somewhat Herculean project ! Cheers - Terry

golfyankeesierra 14th Mar 2015 09:41

Hi,
did you check SmartCockpit - Airline training guides, Aviation, Operations, Safety ?
not sure it has what your looking for (no time to check myself)
Good luck

Terry McCassey 14th Mar 2015 09:57

Thanks, I've had a look and can only find some odds and ends from the FCOM. I rue the day I ever chucked the course notes in the skip - thanks again.

BISH-BASH-BOSH 14th Mar 2015 10:45

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...9960052267.pdf

The DC10 has 3 mechanical slat actuation assemblys.
Each of these assemblys moves a set of slats via cables (big, heavy cables).

You have:
1) An inboard slat actuation assy located at the aircraft centerline which move the L/H & R/H slats inboard of #1 & #3 engine

2)Left outboard slat actuation assy which moves all slats outboard of #1 engine.

3)Right outboard slat actuation assy which moves all slats outboard of #3 engine



Each of these mechanical slat actuation assys use 2 hydraulic actuators to move the cable drum on these actuation assys which moves the cables which in turn extend and retract the slats (Douglas and their cables).

Normally the slats are extended and remain extended due to hydraulic pressure trapped in the hyd. lines between the actuators on the actuation assy and its respective control valve (one control valve per actuation assy for a total of 3).

With AA in ORD, the catastrophic engine separation severed the lines going to the L/H outboard slat actuation assy causing the airload to retract the L/H outboard slats.

To protect against this possibility from reoccurring, the right and left actuation assys have "balanced relief valve" assys installed. Now, should a loss of hydraulic pressure occur with the slats extended, the balanced relief valve will close locking the respective slats extended by trapping fluid in the actuator regardless of hydraulic line damage. These balanced relief valves are on both outboard slat actuation assys but not the inboard assy(located within the fuselage).

The MD11 has a mechanical locking mechanism as well as the aforementioned balanced relief valves for use in case of mechanical failure of the slat actuation mechanism.

On either aircraft, the slats should remain extended in the event of hydraulic failure.

deptrai 14th Mar 2015 11:37

this is from an NTSB report (1979 AA Chicago crash), which may contain some information:

http://s13.postimg.org/hvt4kgbon/slats.jpg

Report of DC-10-10 AA Accident near O'Hare

Terry McCassey 14th Mar 2015 14:41

I can use a lot of that thanks. What would be of real interest is the cable turnbuckle details, especially the bigguns at slat 2 and 3, and the position sensors on slat 2 and 4 ? Thanks everyone. . .

Terry McCassey 15th Mar 2015 13:24

Problem solved. I have just been gifted a PDF copy of the AMM details I need. A very big thank you everyone - Terry.

TURIN 15th Mar 2015 18:46

I've just had a nightmare looking at this thread. Thank the gods I only had it on my licence for a few years. (shudders).

Terry McCassey 16th Mar 2015 05:34

TURIN - I don't believe the shuddering ever leaves you . . . . .

excon 21st Mar 2015 01:47

LIKE IT :)
 
LOL, had a good laff at your user name... guessin u are an old ex subang connie maybe??

haven't heard Terry McCassey before, only tear up ma car seat ... :)

cheers, excon :ok:

ZeBedie 21st Mar 2015 08:25

As a humble pilot, I looked at the slat schematic and thought 'bloody hell - I'm glad I don't have to fix that'!

Terry McCassey 21st Mar 2015 08:38

excon - close, but a few miles south . . .

Terry McCassey 21st Mar 2015 08:43

B***er it - let's try again. PM me if you wish excon and I'll explain.

grounded27 22nd Mar 2015 04:45

For whom had described this system as a "nightmare", I am extremely rusty. It is a system that is pretty damn reliable. As far as rigging goes it can be a nightmare the first time you perform the task, it is demanding yet after performing the task several times it becomes quite routine and all the mystery is gone. Much like having sex with the same woman...


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