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ThreadBaron 12th Jul 2013 16:41


It looks from the photo (and I realise that appearances can be deceptive) like a pretty minor event
But if it had happened in flight ... ?

jabird 12th Jul 2013 16:42


quite surprised that an airfield the size of LHR can't cope with that and still provide enough fire cover to at least keep one runway open.
Give them a break! When the alarm goes and the tenders are sent out, there isn't time to start asking if it is a little, medium of big fire.

I'm sure they will have everything back to normal as soon as is technically possible, positioning sectors from Luton are not good for anyone, nor are empty departure lounges.

One commentator already said fire not relating to previous 787 issues, but I wonder how much damage there is that can't be seen. Thankfully no injuries reported, but a hull loss so early on would not be good for the type.

fireflybob 12th Jul 2013 16:42


quite surprised that an airfield the size of LHR can't cope with that and still provide enough fire cover to at least keep one runway open.
Maybe other fire services attending another event on the airport (just suggesting)?

squarehole 12th Jul 2013 16:43

Thomson 788 G-TUIC has also just returned to Manchester nearly a quarter of the way enroute to Orlando with as yet unknown issue, the 787 has had some pretty bad days..

OntimeexceptACARS 12th Jul 2013 16:44

BBC footage in last 10 mins clearly shows charring, possibly even fuse burn through on the fuse crown, immediately forward of the vertical fin.

The obvious question - are the batteries there or further back and lower down, nearer the APU?

UAVop 12th Jul 2013 16:44

From what I understand, Boeing has said there has never been a 787 that has caught on fire before. :ugh:

EDIT: Boeing stock immediately dropped 7%

kuningan 12th Jul 2013 16:45

R4 report Thomson say that the Manchester flight incident is unrelated to what has happened at Heathrow.

Burn marks not evident on starboard side:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...130712_BA3.jpg

Iver 12th Jul 2013 16:46

Unbelievable!!!!! :mad: :eek: If I am not mistaken, Ethiopian conducted its own repairs on its 787 fleet and got them into the air the quickest of any airline.

Fingers crossed this does not shut down the 787 flying again....

MPN11 12th Jul 2013 16:49

If that is hull damage from 'whatever fire' then:

1. 787 gets bad Press again.
2. I will not fly on one.

fantom 12th Jul 2013 16:49

Looking at the damaged area (about 1-2 meters on the topside in front of the fin) and bearing in mind this is composite, how will they repair that?

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 12th Jul 2013 16:50

I saw a fair few incidents in my time at Heathrow, including aircraft accidents, but I never saw the place closed. Bizarre.

Redland 12th Jul 2013 16:50

It appears the damage is directly above the overhead crew rest cabin.

e195-001 12th Jul 2013 16:51

maybe a better pictures?

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/...%20Air/etz.jpg

MPN11 12th Jul 2013 16:51


It looks from the photo (and I realise that appearances can be deceptive) like a pretty minor event, quite surprised that an airfield the size of LHR can't cope with that and still provide enough fire cover to at least keep one runway open.
Have you ever read the requirements?

i haven't for years, but I doubt that LHR has the 300% cover you are imagining.

donnlass 12th Jul 2013 16:54

Runways now open at Heathrow.

Faire d'income 12th Jul 2013 16:54

Anyone know if that is directly over the rear galley, forward of the rear galley or is there a rear galley on a 787? Thus possibly a galley fire?

You wouldn't expect batteries there in most other types but I have no idea for the 787.

Buster the Bear 12th Jul 2013 16:56

The aircraft was reported to be either being prepared to be towed or had been towed.

Battery located in aft electronics bay wherever that is?

General_Kirby 12th Jul 2013 16:56

There is a difference between the airport being 'closed' and commerical airlines being unable to land or depart due to lack of fire cover.

tubby linton 12th Jul 2013 16:57

Do ET have the rear crew rest loft fitted because the scorch marks would be about right if they do?

adriannicol 12th Jul 2013 16:57

APU batteries are located in the in the aft eebay. There are no batteries at the fire location in the crown afaik


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