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Ausindo172P 27th Feb 2012 13:32

0-320D2J on Auto Fuel, cyc and heat problems
 
Hi I have got a small fleet of C172P running Auto Fuel here in Asia, having Overheating and broken rings/piston damage, want to get some feed back on what people are doing to consistently get good results. I ran auto fuel quite successfully back in the late 80s and had no real problems (in Australia).

any feed back much appreciated

Will

Westaussielame 2nd Mar 2012 10:02

Quite a bit of info on autogas in aircraft engines here .

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looks like you need 91RON and ethanol free fuel as a starting point for the d2j.

Would suggest the fuel you were using in the 80's was quite different to now.

You have stc's for running these engines on autogas and following to letter?

grounded27 2nd Mar 2012 14:37

Not a GA guy but it sounds like you are needing the lubricating properties of lead. Try an additive if available.

Progressive 6th Mar 2012 13:57

Ausindo172P

The piston and ring damage you are seeing is almost certainly related to detonation ( a serious condition that will result in engine failure if left unchecked) within the cylinder caused by wrong octane levels or ethanol inclusion in the fuel. I am guessing these are not the same 172s you had in the 80s hence probably different engine models too (if these are higher horsepower engines = greater chance of detonation).
If you wish to continue operating auto fuel ( and you should be aware that ALL aircraft engine makers advise against this and hence insurance/the courts may not cover you in the event of failure) you should arrange a stable supply of the highest octane completely ethanol free fuel you can find.
This may require you going direct tot he wholesaler and or refinery to achieve supply and testing your own samples (relatively inexpensive ethanol test can be carried out by settling out a sample. Particularly if the supplier can not be trusted not make a quick buck by slipping some ethanol into the fuel.
Good luck but please be aware of the risk detonation poses to your aircraft.

yotty 6th Mar 2012 19:27

I just wonder if you mean "pre-detonation" ? just checking ! :)


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