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chockchucker 3rd Feb 2010 04:41

QF L.A.M.E. jobs
 
For the interest of anybody seeking a job in Melbourne.


Qantas have today advertised (externally) for Avionics L.A.M.E.'s to work in their 737 heavy maintenance facility in Melbourne. They have six positions to fill, and I believe will consider non-type rated L.A.M.E.'s (doubt they'll lure six EIR guys from Virgin/J.H.A.S. on the money that they'll be offering) with a view to training them up on the 738.


https://qantas.taleo.net/careersecti....ftl?job=97440



Try the link above if you're interested.



Good Luck!:ok:

SeldomFixit 3rd Feb 2010 08:48

And if that doesn't work - try the link above - coneheads.............Jeez:eek:

rmm 4th Feb 2010 01:21

There's quite a few peeved off guys in those two outfits especially with there rostering systems. Don't forget (Forstaff) guys from Avalon, they'd probably jump at the chance. Are there no internal candidates (ame's) that can be upgraded to LAME's?

chockchucker 4th Feb 2010 03:55

Nope. A few AME's are plodding along with their basics but, that's about it.


Besides, that still doesn't fix their lack of numbers problem. There's a shirt load of work coming in, and they need people badly. I doubt six LAME's/AME's will completely solve all their problems with manpower but, it's better than nothing.

John__ 4th Feb 2010 04:36

In my opinion i dont think Qf or any of the major airlines now are interested in training ame's to lame level. I got offered an AME role with jetstar about 3 months ago, i am a Avionics LAME full E/I/R licences with some airline experiance, and when i asked if they would get me type rated the answer was " no ".

Im getting pretty tired of getting the same response from multiple airlines so i have now moved into a different stream of the airline bussiness.

Good luck to all the other AME's out there hoping to become LAME's....

Cheers

aveng 5th Feb 2010 10:33

Heard from a little birdy that Qf Perth may be taking on more people soon, possible external lames. Keep watching taleo!!!:ok:

BrissySparkyCoit 5th Feb 2010 12:31

aveng, plenty of LAMES in Brissy trying to get to Perth, being held back by local management. The upshot of this (and various other factors) is reflected in the engagement survey results I believe.:ugh:

SOHAIL Z 5th Feb 2010 18:43

type rating
 
HI to every body
If any body have his type rating from any EASA PART 147 orgnisation, it will be acceptable in Australia to become LAME ? If i have to chose between 737-CL , 737-NG or 767-300 witch is best for my futer work in Australia?
Regards

Pterois Volitans 7th Feb 2010 07:05

What about training some Sydney AMEs to become LAMEs. There are people with all the basics completed, but are being held back from a type course because they do not have enough SOE time :ugh:!!!. If we could got rid of the "old/partimers" it would open up some spaces for other people to be trained on type!

chockchucker 7th Feb 2010 09:47

You want some LAME training? (or know somebody who wants LAME training?)


You might want to endure some short term pain (moving to Melbourne) to get fast-tracked to LAME status. There are six positions to fill, and I'll be extremely surprised if there are six 737 classis/NG EIR LAME's out there just sitting patiently to answer QF's call.


Line stations, it appears to me, seem to be purposely diluting LAME numbers in favour of AME's to work on the tarmac. The obvious agenda would seem to be the eventual introduction of LAME-less tarmacs (except for a few rovers) much like the Jetstar, Tiger, and Virgin (for the most part) operations. The Majority of Line LAME's may end up on permanent nightshift or base maintenance. A sad state of affairs but, to me, it's as plain as the nose on your face that QF wishes to go that way.


Good AME's (with all their basics) who left Melbourne Heavy for the promise of a 'better life' at line, have been deliberately not put on type courses or trained up to LAME status. Not so the case in Heavy recently with AME's with all (or even only most) their basics, being sent on 737NG training. So desparate has the situation become with the lack of LAME's and with the projected workload in the years ahead.


Heavy definitely isn't as glamorous as line. No doubt about it. However, if there are AME's working at QF hungry to be trained up to LAME status, a window of opportunity seems to currently exist at QF Tulla.


With, what I see, as the current QF management agenda to 'dumb down' line maintenance with more AME's and less LAME's, you may be waiting quite some time awaiting QF to gift you some type training. Especially if you're an AME employed at a line station on the eastern seaboard.


Some food for thought for you young wannabe Avionics LAME's.



Good Luck.:ok:

ampclamp 7th Feb 2010 22:30

good to see encouraging words chockchucker.
heavy is not perceived as glamourous as line but having workd both once you get over working around operational aircraft it is pretty much the same.whatever floats your boat.

getting licensed is the big big hurdle now and if doing time in melb dock is the way ,go for it.

Steady work. Inside most of the time (ask the melb line worker ants how glamourous a tulla winter outside is! ) you get to know your jet really well and no nightshift.

sohail z, not sure I can offer any advice.Migrating is one thing getting employed is another. NG best chance I'd say but....

tjc 8th Feb 2010 00:34

It a sad state of affairs, but the traditional Avionic expert will now be a thing of the past in the line environment with the intoduction of the EASA style regs.

Just look at the recent selections for the A380 in syd, 20 odd airframe to 2 avionic. You can see how the current QF management want to drive things for the future.

It will be interesting to see how things play out.

QF94 8th Feb 2010 10:30


What about training some Sydney AMEs to become LAMEs. There are people with all the basics completed, but are being held back from a type course because they do not have enough SOE time :ugh:!!!. If we could got rid of the "old/partimers" it would open up some spaces for other people to be trained on type!
I don't know that getting rid of the "old/partimers" would achieve anything. Most of them, all four of them, have licences that are dead or about to die. How would this open up spaces?

Pterois Volitans, maybe the 12 LAME positions that were recently made redundant from S.I.T. would be enough space for you to become a LAME.

The bottom line is, that there is no training for AME's at this point in time or the forseeable future, as the idea of management is to reduce the LAME numbers on line and increase, or at least maintain the numbers of AME's, if they can hold on to them.

Gas Bags 9th Feb 2010 13:12

QF94,

Is that your age and are you one of these part timers????

SOHAIL Z 9th Feb 2010 21:25

ampclamp ???
 

sohail z, not sure I can offer any advice.Migrating is one thing getting employed is another. NG best chance I'd say but....
Sir,
I want to find a job first as AME or LAME according to my profession.
And I did not want to Migrate if I will not get a job in Meintanance otherwise I am doing my job in Moscow as AME and I am very happy. I am on this forum to know max. I have an information that THERE IS A NEW EASA scheem and till the end of this year CASA is going towards EASA.
If I have a type traing as like B2 737-NG from any EASA part 147 orgnization like Lufthansa tech. +basic qualification ?then where is problem to become LAME?:confused:
And please do,nt think that all people have same mind just migrate to anywhere and they can claen th dishes in a restaurant do,nt matter if they have a good qualification.

tjc 10th Feb 2010 01:40


I want to find a job first as AME or LAME according to my profession.
And I did not want to Migrate if I will not get a job in Meintanance otherwise I am doing my job in Moscow as AME and I am very happy. I am on this forum to know max. I have an information that THERE IS A NEW EASA scheem and till the end of this year CASA is going towards EASA.
If I have a type traing as like B2 737-NG from any EASA part 147 orgnization like Lufthansa tech. +basic qualification ?then where is problem to become LAME?
There is no problem in becoming a LAME, as long as you meet the prerequisites that satifies CASA.

It is just whether the airlines want to pay and employ you as a LAME.
We have recently gone down the track of increasing the 'quota' type systems as to how many LAMEs an airline needs to run its operation and pay for.
If it was up to the airlines, they would employ all LAMEs, but pay AME wage rates.

Can only speak for the big players, not sure about the minors. It is all about driving costs down, and they do it well over here.

chockchucker 10th Feb 2010 20:21

An updated web link to the seek advertisement for the LAME positions for QF at Tulla for those interested..................

Me want cookies!


(Not too sure why the web link says 'me want cookies' however, it should still take you to the right place.)

rmm 11th Feb 2010 00:11


Sound working knowledge of IMSP, TSO, CAMEO, SUPPLY and PC based systems
Where would an outsider gain this knowledge? You'd have to be an ex-employee.

chockchucker 11th Feb 2010 00:19

I can assure anybody out there, nobody has a 'sound' knowledge of those systems. Be they current employees or not.

:ugh:

6680740 11th Feb 2010 13:56

Hi
 
Hi Guys

I was just wondering about the pay and conditions, in terms of shift pattern and stuff.

I'm an Avionics engineer with EIR on the 737 NG and E on the 737 classic. I also have the 744..... EIR

Any input would be appreciated

Cheers


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