Engineers & Technicians In this day and age of increased CRM and safety awareness, a forum for the guys and girls who keep our a/c serviceable.

Flybe

Old 24th Jan 2013, 09:52
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alloway
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Flybe

Whats going on with Flybe are the engineering staff safe to keep the planes safe???????????????????
Keep them up boys
Perrin is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2013, 08:47
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs down

Flybe have some of the best engineers around for the types we operate,for years we have been left to feel unwanted by the airline and have had no real advancements or investment in our environment. Finally they have made their choice and will outsource all line maintenance. The q400 fleet will suffer under this move as if its not bad enough already! As for the guys who are left over from this it's going to be tough knowing the company is trying to find companies to outsource too.
1830 is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2013, 09:29
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If it's possible to see a bright side, it's that Flybe's enginers will have qualifications, authorisations and experience that the outsourcing companies will need very badly.

If I were in Flybe feeling vulnerable, I would start talking to all the companies in the frame for outsourcing.
Capot is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2013, 09:36
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: England
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
will outsource all line maintenance
I hope that's an exaggeration! All of it?!
Lord Spandex Masher is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2013, 12:06
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: uk
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If that is the case with the outsourcing then the race to the bottom is nearly finished, good luck to those affected.
vs69 is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2013, 15:28
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: up north
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It is a FACT. All line engineering to be outsourced.
As one of those engineers who received his "90 days notice (at risk) letter today I can assure you ALL line engineering to be outsourced.

A sad way to make my first post.

Good luck to all my fellow Flybe Engineers
WEE G is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2013, 16:53
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 31
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I hope that's an exaggeration! All of it?!
Dont easyjet outsource 90% of theirs?
The only time I have seen Easy Line Engineers is at LTN.
Every other airport I've been on where they op from, has been 3rd party. SRTechnics etc...
The90sAME is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2013, 21:08
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Anglia
Posts: 2,076
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
I thought EAsy Tech was SR Technics?
Rigga is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2013, 12:38
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Inverted
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Best wishes to the guys affected. Another sad story for UK maintenance.
Is there ever to be an end to this era of cut backs!!!!
cessna24 is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2013, 14:28
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: uk
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Easy have their own hangar and line maint operation at LTN, all other bases are outsourced I believe, LGW line by SRT and hangar maint by some red-tailed outfit....
vs69 is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2013, 14:30
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: uk
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Apologies for the thread drift above.

Are the guys at Exeter safe or is the axe falling there too? Can TUPE not be applied to this if the work is outsourced to a provider? Not sure how the law works in that respect.
vs69 is offline  
Old 31st Jan 2013, 09:05
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: England
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
We're all doomed

Exeter are being hit hard too. At the senior sup level and anybody below fitter1. Allegedly, if you beleive the people in the hangar, but why would they tell porkies??
Some bases may need a new hi viz vest with a crown on it too.....
end of the bell is offline  
Old 1st Feb 2013, 11:51
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: sussex
Age: 48
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why on earth would monarch wish to get mired in with a airline who appear to be on the cusp of sadly going down the pan, and have no experience whatsoever of the types flybe operate.
flying-spanner is offline  
Old 1st Feb 2013, 15:08
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: England
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Big M

Maybe, just maybe, there maybe a large amount of engineers on market soon with vast amounts of experience on those types. They already have approval on the shiney jets for Malaga.
Its only a short walk from the existing hangar to the proposed new hangar. The existing hangar is only there by the skin of its teeth, a good storm would sort it out for good!
I can fit one more maybe in if you wish.
end of the bell is offline  
Old 2nd Feb 2013, 11:51
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: UK
Age: 58
Posts: 3,462
Received 135 Likes on 73 Posts
Good luck to all involved. For what its worth, another very large British Airline is also outsourcing its line maintenance.


Posted from Pprune.org App for Android
TURIN is offline  
Old 21st Mar 2013, 12:51
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Monarch

As mentioned the deal for TUPE at MAN, EMA, BHX and LGW is almost complete (1 may). Rest assured monarch are a new big player in the MRO industry. It's the skill set and qty of LAE which is the real reason for their interest. A 10 bay hangar and Boeing gold care 787 facility opens in BHX nov 13. Recruiting such vast numbers of a specific and highly regulated skilled work force would be huge undertaking and near impossible. Flybe contract puts 80 engineers at BHX alone into their facility. That is still only a proportion of the 300 potential staff required at BHX.
A very good move for existing FB engineers. There has been no direction or investment in FB line maintenance for a few years now. The Q4 fleet continues to suffer and will only get worse now. BHX is Flybe' main assurance policy for defect rectification and trouble shooting. They have just removed their primary and most important resource. Time will tell but industry history shows this is a slippery slope for FB.
1830 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.