ALAEA ups bans
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What about 4 April 2005? The first time they've had bans of an industrial manner since the great carpark dispute back in the 80's (not counting jetsmart of course).
Although I have to admit that the O/T bans were left so far open for abuse by the company, and individuals that can't bear to not work o/t for a couple of weeks for the benefit of the whole organisation that they're not really genuine anyway.
Although I have to admit that the O/T bans were left so far open for abuse by the company, and individuals that can't bear to not work o/t for a couple of weeks for the benefit of the whole organisation that they're not really genuine anyway.
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We all know about last weeks demise of Mr Potato Head but has anyone seen or heard from Mr. Qantas since the beheading? I just wonder if Bruce has access to a computer from home.
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You are joking, right? Wake up to yourself! BD posting here? Idiots, the lot of you! I have sat here reading long enough. Time to get involved. Yeah, I know, I am setting myself up for some nasty posts. What you do not realize is that no one of signifigance posts here! (Myself, included!) So, post away! It all falls on deaf ears! Bunch of old ladies, as I see it!
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Yes you are correct no one of any significance, as you say, posts here. I take it what you meant to say was, those who hold the key to our future and live in ivory towers NO LONGER POST HERE, because I can assure you they once did. Another fact that may have eluded you is that where they no longer post here they sure as hell still read the thoughts of those who do. 
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and what about the rumour --about BD starting at VB/JC engineering--well thats all it is a rumour started by the artfull dodger(JM) and sucked in hook, line and sinker by people starving for info on the demise of the great leader.
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I'm not in engineering but was the reason VH-QPE was in PER for almost 2 days because of the good weather in the west and people needed to spend time with their families. This in turn caused QF83 ex MEL to be canx and no one told the CSM so she turned up ready to operate but there was no one there.
It seems that this is the only thing that management will take notice of when it starts to cost a heap of cash.
Keep up the fight,
Rammel
P.S I also heard of another a/c which was in PER with 21 MEL items, I thought this was a large number or is it about the norm.
It seems that this is the only thing that management will take notice of when it starts to cost a heap of cash.
Keep up the fight,
Rammel
P.S I also heard of another a/c which was in PER with 21 MEL items, I thought this was a large number or is it about the norm.
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And how ridiculas is it to be transferring cabin defects into the Tech log as if there aren't enough deferred defects now. Every piece of trim and cabin that would normally be picked up on an 'A' check or overnight is now being logged by cabin crew and then Mandatorily logged by the Tech Crew. This takes up a lot of valueable time that should be used else where.
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Well are they defects or not?!
If an aircraft is not in A1 ,tip top, condition does this then constitute the need for attention from Engineering.
There has been a lot of talk recently about how 'good' a Hold Item is. A Hold that could potentially down an aircraft (dare I say a cat ' A' MEL) would be considered a 'Good' Hold, whilst an aircraft with pathetic paint and thus a bad image for QF would be considered a 'Bad' Hold.
Both require Engineering to rectify the problem, but in an airline run by Pilots and accountants the fact that paint is a form of corrosion prevention is somewhat lost.
And what are we to do. Wait for these defects to be found on 'A' checks? If we can get enough guys to work on the aircraft. If we can get enough time to rectify the defects. We dont have enough time/manpower as it is to fix problems, just do the inspections and hope you dont find anything.
This is a problem with an obvious fix no one wants to admit. We have a severe shortage of qualified Engineers able to perform the necessary tasks and until the issue of staffing is addressed we will continue to be pressured by management to cut corners in order to make the system work.
Train and Employ more staff. Stop looking at what it costs you and start looking at what it SAVES you!
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If an aircraft is not in A1 ,tip top, condition does this then constitute the need for attention from Engineering.
There has been a lot of talk recently about how 'good' a Hold Item is. A Hold that could potentially down an aircraft (dare I say a cat ' A' MEL) would be considered a 'Good' Hold, whilst an aircraft with pathetic paint and thus a bad image for QF would be considered a 'Bad' Hold.
Both require Engineering to rectify the problem, but in an airline run by Pilots and accountants the fact that paint is a form of corrosion prevention is somewhat lost.
And what are we to do. Wait for these defects to be found on 'A' checks? If we can get enough guys to work on the aircraft. If we can get enough time to rectify the defects. We dont have enough time/manpower as it is to fix problems, just do the inspections and hope you dont find anything.
This is a problem with an obvious fix no one wants to admit. We have a severe shortage of qualified Engineers able to perform the necessary tasks and until the issue of staffing is addressed we will continue to be pressured by management to cut corners in order to make the system work.
Train and Employ more staff. Stop looking at what it costs you and start looking at what it SAVES you!
Maintain the Rage
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Some airlines are using security personnel to do a cabin condition report after their security check, and you should see the Sh!t they report. They also think that a frayed edge on a Partition curtain is too important to not follow up to find out what the Engineer did about it. You have to draw the line somewhere, next they will be giving passengers a post flight report slip to complain about there problems.
Still if they want to keep reporting defects( however insignificant they might be) then you and I will be around for a long long long time.
I would like to know what percentage of delays have been attributed to completeing the deferral of cabin defects. Only yesterday I had a technical defect that took the whole transit, which was completed in time for departure, but alas, I had no time to action the miriade of cabin defects that had been transfered into the tech log. Therefore, the aircraft was delayed while I sat and completed my duties.
Still if they want to keep reporting defects( however insignificant they might be) then you and I will be around for a long long long time.
I would like to know what percentage of delays have been attributed to completeing the deferral of cabin defects. Only yesterday I had a technical defect that took the whole transit, which was completed in time for departure, but alas, I had no time to action the miriade of cabin defects that had been transfered into the tech log. Therefore, the aircraft was delayed while I sat and completed my duties.
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Heard an interesting story tonight from Maint Scheduling in Melbourne....
Apparently a few nights ago a 737 was due for an 'A' check in BNE (beautiful place!) but complications arose where the aircraft was U/S'd in Melbourne. Another 737 was due for an 'A' check in Melbourne as it was on over run, but it had to be deferred.
The U/S'd aircraft had approx 10 hours to go before it was to be grounded due to the inability to apply an over run to an over run.
Once in the hangar, the 'A' check was carried out, but the aircraft was grounded for 3 seperate defects.
Thats right....3 seperate defects were so severe in nature that either of them would have grounded the aircraft.
Be very thorough in your inspections guys. The standard of servicability is slipping, and at the end of the day we'll wear it for the company's 'cut backs'!
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Apparently a few nights ago a 737 was due for an 'A' check in BNE (beautiful place!) but complications arose where the aircraft was U/S'd in Melbourne. Another 737 was due for an 'A' check in Melbourne as it was on over run, but it had to be deferred.
The U/S'd aircraft had approx 10 hours to go before it was to be grounded due to the inability to apply an over run to an over run.
Once in the hangar, the 'A' check was carried out, but the aircraft was grounded for 3 seperate defects.
Thats right....3 seperate defects were so severe in nature that either of them would have grounded the aircraft.
Be very thorough in your inspections guys. The standard of servicability is slipping, and at the end of the day we'll wear it for the company's 'cut backs'!
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Moderate, Modest & Mild.
My sons and I are booked to fly on Q in the near future.
You blokes had bettter make bl@@dy sure that the aircraft are not carrying any defects that compromise Safety in ANY way.
It's a relief to know that you're not letting your professional standards drop, despite "commercial" pressures from above.
Keep it up, guys - for Safety's sake...and ours'
You blokes had bettter make bl@@dy sure that the aircraft are not carrying any defects that compromise Safety in ANY way.
It's a relief to know that you're not letting your professional standards drop, despite "commercial" pressures from above.
Keep it up, guys - for Safety's sake...and ours'
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What is it with QF 83?
I've heard the flight to Hong Kong has been cancelled twice in the last week due to maintenance problems.
Can anyone shed some light? If its true the wheels have already fallen off after about 3 weeks of simply refusing to do O/T!
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I've heard the flight to Hong Kong has been cancelled twice in the last week due to maintenance problems.
Can anyone shed some light? If its true the wheels have already fallen off after about 3 weeks of simply refusing to do O/T!
Maintain the Rage
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The QF83 was not the only flight canx that week. QF67 PER-HKG, QF188 HKG-MEL, QF83 MEL-HKG both legs and then QF83 both legs once again in the week.
It seems to be an avionics fault to do with flight control systems.
It seems to be an avionics fault to do with flight control systems.
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It would be nice if the ALAEA could give an update meeting or two on the success or failure of the bans.
Wont hold my breath waiting though... even if they'd like me to.
Wont hold my breath waiting though... even if they'd like me to.
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This overtime ban is a joke. Even with 99% of assn members refusing to do ot on any a/c. it is the 1% that is completely negating any effect of the other 99%.
Thursday i was talking to someone from SIT and they were telling me a sit lame (ex-ansett) is providing licence coverage in DARWIN because all the 737ng guys are complying with the assn 's directive and not making themself available for overtime.
When he was confronted about it, he claimed that it wasnt 'overtime' as such, but he was in fact receiving time in leiu of days worked so it didnt come under the o/t ban.
He was also advised by the powers that be, that he should stay in his hotel while hes up there, and only come near the airport if he is required. i bet theres a few blokes up there waiting to 'shake his hand'.
I'm an ame and i honestly dont know how you guys can look at yourselves as a union, your a joke....let me rephrase, i know the majority of you are wanting to make a difference, but there are far too many in the assn that get away with completely disobeying union directives!!! you guys have to take action for yourselves - not wait to hear it from some douche bag exec that lives under managements desk.
I hope to get a licence soon and i sure as hell wont be joining the ALAEA, id rather take my chances by myself then waste my membership fees and still get f**ked up the a$$.
Thursday i was talking to someone from SIT and they were telling me a sit lame (ex-ansett) is providing licence coverage in DARWIN because all the 737ng guys are complying with the assn 's directive and not making themself available for overtime.
When he was confronted about it, he claimed that it wasnt 'overtime' as such, but he was in fact receiving time in leiu of days worked so it didnt come under the o/t ban.
He was also advised by the powers that be, that he should stay in his hotel while hes up there, and only come near the airport if he is required. i bet theres a few blokes up there waiting to 'shake his hand'.
I'm an ame and i honestly dont know how you guys can look at yourselves as a union, your a joke....let me rephrase, i know the majority of you are wanting to make a difference, but there are far too many in the assn that get away with completely disobeying union directives!!! you guys have to take action for yourselves - not wait to hear it from some douche bag exec that lives under managements desk.
I hope to get a licence soon and i sure as hell wont be joining the ALAEA, id rather take my chances by myself then waste my membership fees and still get f**ked up the a$$.