No Mercy from the Black Caps!
 

I've seen it all !

Don't mind you guys winning the America's Cup,belting the Wallabies,giving Ansett a hard time or playing silly buggars with sheep.....

BUT

thrashing us at cricket on Australia Day !!!!!!

we suck.... <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

well as an aussie one would think bloody hell i hate the NZ'ers winning the cricket

Call the typical aussie tradition of always having a soft spot for the underdog possibly but for some reason I always hope at times the KIWI's win at times in cricket

I guess it's due to the fact that the game in NZ is followed by very few ppl & not many youngters take the game up at all. So to see a small country with a very small cricket fraternity beat the aussies who have the acadamey etc to make us a very good team is amazing to say the least

Good on em & I hope they win more

Only mistake they made was in Knocking back the invite from us for some of their potential young guns to join the acadamey for the betterment of world cricket some years ago

Ok call me a traitor...........I just like to see cricket played without lop sidded teams.

that 150km/ph yorker that gilchrist got. .was a beauty wasn't it!

Goodonyer, Kiwis! Can't complain when a team plays well they deserve to win! Certainly deserve to win the final.

As long as we beat the Seth Efrikaans! :) :)

Sorry, but I think you are in the wrong forum! <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Thanks for the compliments guys - no doubt the ockers will come back fast and furious in the near future and put little brother back in his place! - but it's good to have the team do well, and gratifying for them to get due credit from our aussie mates - ICARUS: - this topic actually has A LOT to do with this forum, in that it is a focus for our (Duynnunda and Godzone's) common interests, not things that have tended to be divisive, of recent times, and from this more even handed and pleasant debate/rumour mongering/responses will follow on aviation topics.

I think the policy of having different Test and One-day teams has bitten us badly. They have the dumped the most successful test opening combination in recent years (who scored at more than 4.5 per over in Tests!) which has exposed the out-of-form middle order that has previously been protected all summer.

Bring back Hayden/Langer for the one-dayers!!!!!

PLEASE!!!!!!!

Australian Selectors.............

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@#~$%** !!!!!!!!

Can't say I'm pleased to have those from the off-shore islands beat us, but ..it happens.

Credit where it's due - well played Kiwis.

Gotta agree there, Mark Waugh is bloody hopeless. The kiwi's have fielded mostly the same strong side, and Fleming has done his homework.. .Whoever said the yorker that got Gillie was good, you're right, it was an absolute cracker. I don't know too many batsmen that would have kept that out.

And I am an Aussie, I just appreciate good sports teams, and the Kiwi one day team has our measure. <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

CL 1/2roe V2 S....just adding some aviation content!

The fat lady ain't singing. In fact she hasn't even got her song sheet out yet.

Watch this _

Australia is just starting to realise you don't win cricket matches on reputation. The Kiwis have done their homework very well on the aussie batsmen ie Damian Martyn's dismissal. Shane Bond's much talked about yorker to Gilchrist was as good as Shane Warne's flipper to Mike Gatting.(many moons ago now!)

If the Aussies don't make some changes to the batting line up and devise some "game plan" in the next two games - we can all sit back and enjoy a New Zealand v South Africa final.

Hey Woomera what gives.

You moved a topic about dogs to Jetblast as it was not Aviation related but this thread continues. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

I for one would rather hear about dogs than cricket. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Yes, I'm MIGHTY p!ssed!! :)

The Kelpie, Blue Heeler, Border Collie thread contained as much Aus/N.Z. and aviation content as this one, and also had the same opportunities to, . . [quote]bring Aussies and Kiwis together, rather than bickering.<hr></blockquote>

I suggest, in the interests of fairness, that D&G is either opened up to ALL Aussie/Kiwi subjects - football, cricket, dogs, etc - or limited to immediate aviation-related posts only.

Hey, Icarus! We heard you the first time, OK?

The first time you may not have known what the thread was about, but to come back in and complain again? Just go away if you don't like it.

As for the cricket, it's easy to have a game plan to restrict the opposition's scoring, in fact every team has one. Whether or not it works depends on the ability and adaptability of the other team, and Australia are failing miserably on both counts. I've thought Martyn should be Australia's first drop in Test cricket (the only game that counts) for some time now, but his exhibition in giving point the same catch two balls apart was shameful.

Umm, whiskery, Warne's delivery to Gatting was not a flipper, just a perfect leg-break.

And thanks, Woomera, for a bit of latitude. It's refreshing to be able to come to D&G and not listen to torrents of abuse. Evidence once again of sport's power.

Binoculars, you have spectacularly missed the point. Well done. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Reference you being glad to come in here and not see torrents of abuse, well surely your argument stands; don't enter! :)

When does a topic cease to become appropriate on PPRUNE? <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

How about the power of "Puppy Love", Binos?

And btw reportfurther, the sheepdog trials DO get live TV coverage in N.Z. - so I think it only fair that if the New Zeal;anders wish to discuss that on the D&G forum, no-one should whine :) about it.

IMHO, cricket (apart from the one day matches) ranks as one of THE most boring sports along with golf and competition couch grass growing!

Kaptin M & Icarus 2001 - some topics on Pprune are a bit like discussions in the bar after a long haul flight.

You can get onto a subject (unrelated or related to flying) and it can hold your interest for the next hour or so. Another topic can see you finishing your beer and retiring for the night.

At this stage, the crew are still drinking!

Binos - I was sure that ball came out of the back of Warne's hand, but it was so long ago you may be right.

[ 28 January 2002: Message edited by: Whiskery ]</p>

Oh well that is good to know. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I am glad that decisions about the demise of threads is not an arbitrary one but rather a well thought out and rational decision based on democratic principles and the ideal of an aviation forum for the antipodes. :)

So onward... <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

hey whiskery, know how you feel. I am sitting here watching India rip England apart 153/1 and tendulkar on 53 not out. i think the ozzies are going to go down this time and by the way it was Gillespie and Symonds who got dropped not Bichel.will be in Trivandrum tomorrow night listening on the world radio, good luck.

146, we have been thrashed in no uncertain terms. That's the fascination with cricket,one day the pidgeon the other,the statue. Tomorrow it may be the Australian's turn to be the statue. Haven't seen a lot of the series over here [all late night replay ,typical if Mother England are not involved] but must say,I think Australia need to extract the proverbial digit if they are to compete in the final matches.

New Zealand are the big improvers and were unlucky not to beat Australia in the test series.

Binoculars, Shane Warne's "unplayable" delivery to Mike Gatting was indeed the flipper. The confusion arises because it pitched outside off stump then came back into the batsman, taking middle and leg. A leg break pitches on leg stump and can take either leg or middle & leg stumps.. .Don't despair, Gatting was just as confused !

Whiskery, would you like a wager on the Ashes series next year?

[ 28 January 2002: Message edited by: Classic Dick ]</p>

Classic Dick,. . As a leg spinner myself (not a particuarly great one I must admit) your knowledge of this subtle art is sadly lacking.. . In other words you know jack **** . The ball that bowled Gatting was indeed a leg break.

Dick, unless we are thinking of completely different deliveries, you are terribly wrong.

That frequently replayed perfect ball to Mike Gatting, Shane Warne's first delivery in that Test, in what, 1993? the delivery that changed the face of Test cricket, was no more a flipper than I am an Arab. It was simply the perfect leg break. It pitched outside leg stump and took off stump; totally unplayable. No batsman in the world could have played it, and Gatting's shock was understandable.

The ball that Whiskery asserts as coming out the back of the hand, and the one you seem to be referring to, is not the flipper either, but the wrong 'un, turning from off to leg. Warne's wrong 'un has never been a potent weapon.

The flipper on the other hand doesn't turn at all. Delivered from the side of the hand with no loop, its value is in its increased speed. As it was performed by Warne at his peak, if you didn't pick it you were out, because it almost always pitched in line and hurried on so quickly that LBW was the only possibility. Ask Darryl Cullinan about it; it broke his heart and destroyed his career.

Alas, Warne hasn't bowled a decent flipper since his shoulder operation, but it was an absolute joy to watch at his peak.

P.S. Sorry to the guys who posted before me. The bloody forums have been down for so long that neither of your posts appeared by the time I got on to respond.

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Strewth! Australia win with three balls to spare.

Bevan just about deserves "Australian of the Year" after that effort! :)

Done some sums and just realised what a fine cricketing nation South Africa are. Does anyone know any South African supporter songs/chants?

Off to buy a Springbok flag; might come in handy over the weekend.

Michael Bevan - you are a legend !

Damian Martyn - get caught at backward point once more and you will probably get another 5 games, if the selectors are consistent.

Mark Waugh - sorry to see you go, but you had your chance(s).

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I don't know how many more of these nail-biters I can stand! Well done Bevan, I thought we had another game in the bag!

A particularly pleasing aspect of an incredible match was to see the Kiwi team applauding the Australian pair off the field at the end of the match.

Good to see that some sportmanship still remains.

Well done New Zealand and Australia for a great entertainment spectacle and diplay of sportmanship and prowess from both. <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

And on that note of harmony and accord. :)