Um, what's all this about then?
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I suspect some poetic exaggeration was used when describing the incident.
I don't think anyone is stupid enough to miss your point, but alas you seem to have missed the ones being put to you.
Fantastic, I don't know you, no worries. I merely brought the subject up to see if anyone else had had any other similar experiences, which they have, not to bitch about how no-one respects me etc. I couldn't give a tinker's cuss about who respects what, what I DO care about is my pax and their impressions of the whole flight, and that some goose decided that he'd get into my face without the slightest provocation.
Is that simple enough for you?
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I read you 5 CJ.
By the way how are the ILS training Videos coming on ?
Any additional types covered recently.
Look forward to , "On the flight deck - PC12 - Alice - Perth"
with Captain Dick Small.
By the way how are the ILS training Videos coming on ?
Any additional types covered recently.
Look forward to , "On the flight deck - PC12 - Alice - Perth"
with Captain Dick Small.
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Jezza? 
Bugga me! 
Please email me if you get the time, love to catch-up. How did the move go northwards? Still there? All going well?
"Good arfternoon Ledies end gentlemen, I'd like to welcome you all abawd...." God, how long ago is that?
Bugga me! Please email me if you get the time, love to catch-up. How did the move go northwards? Still there? All going well?
"Good arfternoon Ledies end gentlemen, I'd like to welcome you all abawd...." God, how long ago is that?
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I agree with Mai. The rest of you guys are a bunch of ignorant ego-driven w@nkers. To suggest that an APS security guard is a police wannabee is like suggesting a QANTAS pilot is a Hazelton wannabee. APS are Commonwealth security, and will soon be merging with the Federal Police. They wear a shiny badge and carry a gun, handcuffs, etc because that is their uniform. Those are their required tools. I don't see you ripping off your local cops for carrying guns and cuffs.
You try to justify your own rudeness by arguing that he started it. How old did you say you were? 30? or 13? I see you have studied conflict resolution, and that you best way to handle conflict is to act like an obnoxious jerk.
Guys, don't bother applying for QANTAS, you won't pass the psyche test.
I don't think any of you guys would even make it to a Springer show about relationships with a partner. From your attitude I don't think you have the emotional maturity or stability to be involved in anything more than a one-night stand. Most likely your rebellion against security stems from your experience with nightclub bouncers picking you up off the floor at the end of the night and kicking you out.
Good luck in GA. May I suggest a career in security when you lose your medical...sorry, I forgot, most of you guys probably have DUI or minor drug offences, or assault charges after your conflict resolution skills didn't come up to scratch.
PS I do not work for APS, never have, just appreciate the career they have chosen and the work they do.
You try to justify your own rudeness by arguing that he started it. How old did you say you were? 30? or 13? I see you have studied conflict resolution, and that you best way to handle conflict is to act like an obnoxious jerk.
Guys, don't bother applying for QANTAS, you won't pass the psyche test.
I don't think any of you guys would even make it to a Springer show about relationships with a partner. From your attitude I don't think you have the emotional maturity or stability to be involved in anything more than a one-night stand. Most likely your rebellion against security stems from your experience with nightclub bouncers picking you up off the floor at the end of the night and kicking you out.
Good luck in GA. May I suggest a career in security when you lose your medical...sorry, I forgot, most of you guys probably have DUI or minor drug offences, or assault charges after your conflict resolution skills didn't come up to scratch.
PS I do not work for APS, never have, just appreciate the career they have chosen and the work they do.
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Security is a necessity, and the personnel employed to ensure it are not generally in the level of high IQ.
At the very least, the training schools they attend seem not to have a subject of tactful approach written into the curriculum.
If they did, they would not create the response most of us would have when aggressively accosted by them.
Like any police force, they are demanded by a civilised society, and fall into the category of "necessary evil", but that does not demand they leave what little grey matter they have at grade 6, and act as if they are Hitler's stormtroopers.
At the very least, the training schools they attend seem not to have a subject of tactful approach written into the curriculum.
If they did, they would not create the response most of us would have when aggressively accosted by them.
Like any police force, they are demanded by a civilised society, and fall into the category of "necessary evil", but that does not demand they leave what little grey matter they have at grade 6, and act as if they are Hitler's stormtroopers.
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Radar, I'm doing OK, I'll email soon. Have you made an honest woman of the other half yet? Best Regards to her and yourself.
TT2, a great deal better written than I am capable of, thank you. Unfortunately that very point you made seems to have whistled straight through someone or other's head without registering. I do/did not lambast the person involved, only the attitude I was greeted with.
Elvis, reaction can be a nasty thing, can't it? Perhaps I was viewed as a soft target?
I would argue that just about every single one of you would have reacted along similar lines had you been there, it was an unwarranted case of "in your face".
No-one, including myself, would stand here and say that there is no need for them to do their respective jobs because unfortunately it is a reflection of the society we live in that we have cause for them at all.
All I suggested was that there is a better way than the approach I was shown.
Some of you need to RTFQ. Enough.
W, please.
Best Regards to her and yourself.TT2, a great deal better written than I am capable of, thank you. Unfortunately that very point you made seems to have whistled straight through someone or other's head without registering. I do/did not lambast the person involved, only the attitude I was greeted with.
Elvis, reaction can be a nasty thing, can't it? Perhaps I was viewed as a soft target?
I would argue that just about every single one of you would have reacted along similar lines had you been there, it was an unwarranted case of "in your face".
No-one, including myself, would stand here and say that there is no need for them to do their respective jobs because unfortunately it is a reflection of the society we live in that we have cause for them at all.
All I suggested was that there is a better way than the approach I was shown.
Some of you need to RTFQ. Enough.
W, please.
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I have a guideline...nay a rule for dealing with this kind of thing.
Never, never, never argue with a man/woman with a gun.
Smile politely, thru gritted teeth perhaps, take a note of the time, badge number, physical description of the guard and report the behaviour to his immediate supervisors at the earliest possible instant, IN WRITING.
Don't bother with verbal reports...they are not worth the paper they are written on.
Insist on a written report from the superior.
Safe, simple and gets the point made.
cheers
Never, never, never argue with a man/woman with a gun.
Smile politely, thru gritted teeth perhaps, take a note of the time, badge number, physical description of the guard and report the behaviour to his immediate supervisors at the earliest possible instant, IN WRITING.
Don't bother with verbal reports...they are not worth the paper they are written on.
Insist on a written report from the superior.
Safe, simple and gets the point made.
cheers
