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jcbmack 25th August 2012 21:09

Thanks For Replying
 

I'd rather hoped that with the mods sanitising this thread and deleting your earlier posts that you'd taken the hint and gone away. However as you've come back for a second spit I'll riposte in kind. Just once. I won't reply to you on this thread again - I've better things to do
But in the meantime, to take your points.....
I admit my last post was too aggressive--in too many places, and I have taken the hint from the moderators. Reply if you wish or do not, as this is your choice.


"I can tell you that IObit works great and will not damage most computers based upon the 7 brand names I tested. In fact I have never seen IObit damage a single computer"
Of the many thousands I've been involved in fixing, either directly or through supervision, I can assure you that the products are crapware that reduce performance, damage registries and can stop machines booting. Thats not found from a sample of seven machines, its based on many thousands of machines actually failing while in use in the real world
You misunderstand me. I am referring to 7 brand names and not just 7 different machines--I too tested thousands of machines in total. In addition, I have read dozens of professional reviews and did not take advertisements or over-hyped review seriously. With many friends with computers, and clients, who trust my judgment, it has been successful.



"detects viruses that my old Trend Micro and Norton missed."
If you use Norton and Trend Micro as any kind of yardstick for viral detection performance then you lose any kind of credibility you ever had. Both are close to useless in real world environments. Not hard to make ANYTHING look better than those.
Actually Norton has been excellent for the last 2 years or so and Trend Micro was better about 5 years ago, but it is still decent enough for basic protection. What anti virus software do you suggest and what metrics are you using?


Regarding Malwarebytes, you were the one who initially mentioned it in the same breath as the IObit software, naturally leading to the conclusion that you were comparing the products. As to "finding it on CNET" - I would suggest you would do better to obtain it directly from their website. There are too many issues with downloads from CNET, with some versions of the site redirecting you to assisted downloads. The same comment applies to Piriform's CCleaner as well
As to the correct name origin for CCleaner, its not a semantic point, its a point of accuracy as there are numerous examples of crapware which can be found by a Google search for cookie cleaner
Regarding Malwarebytes I merely mentioned it as it is compatible with IObit without slowing the machine down. What you inferred is a different matter.

CNET has changed its policies to make it easier to decline additional and potentially unwanted downloads. I like CNET as it is a one stop resource but that is an individual choice, now is it not?

Regarding CCleaner that was my one and only error. Here I misspoke, but it is a very minor point. Accuracy is important, but anyone can see I made a minor mistake by saying cookie instead of crap... I did know what it stood for, but I just mistyped--all people mistype or have typos at times, even you. I should have been more conscious of remembering what the C stands for. Not a big deal though.


Finally your comment "I use MalwareBytes, IObit and CCleaner together and have done so on many different computers for over a year with great success. "
Whoopie doopie dooo! A whole year and you're an expert! I've been fixing these things full time since the late 1990's and I still regard myself as a beginner. Remember - you may be an expert programmer but that means zilch when you're faced with fixing a machine that doesn't work. I've lost count of the numbers of MCSEs or similar I've sacked for being useless at practical stuff
No, this is not what I was saying. I have been fixing computers for over 20 years, first as an amateur and then for hire Independently and then on a professional basis. I have fixed digital kiosks/recycle machines based upon computers inside, laptops, desktops, stereos, speakers, and debugged programs, among other things. I can only speak for IObit for the past year plus, and that is why I mentioned it.

I learned programming after learning to fix computers. I tend to discuss programming more because I prefer it in certain ways to computer technician work, even when part of the tech work involves programming.

I cannot tell you how many times a digital kiosk job would seem difficult and was done right in 20 minutes and conversely, how a seemingly easy repair job took a month. You never know until you show up to a job. I had this recycling digital kiosk that had a touch screen that would not respond anymore, so prior to replacing it, I looked in the logs, updated the firmware, tested the connection of the router, reprogrammed the DNS (that was an additional part of the work order) called in the numbers, checked the connection and then replaced the screen. The screen did not work still, even though it was properly mounted and evidenced by sending in pictures and observing the other working kiosk near by. Then the chute sensors just stopped working, so I had to replace those, then the hard drive inside fried, so I replaced that, then the printer which was already on its way out had to be repaired so I did that, and then it turned out the company sent me the wrong screen, that was similar, so they sent me a new one--it worked, but then the router connectors would not stay in because the former tech tried gluing them in...

I am sure you have a lot of experience, all I really mean is my samples gave me different results.


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