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None of the above 29th January 2011 12:32

Re-installing XP. Thwarted within seconds.
 
I have been attempting to re-install XP for a friend on her HP Evo N1050v laptop.
Thus far the machine has only offered me the Recovery Console option and, in desperation, I have attempted to take that road. This requires me to use the administrator password. I did the original installation a couple of years ago and, to the best of my recollection, didn't create such a password. Incidentally, just pressing 'Enter' doesn't work in this instance. In an attempt to solve the problem, I went into the BIOS and created a new password. That doesn't work either.

Any ideas how I could get past this problem, Gentlemen, please?

N o t a

PS My favoured course of action would be to recommend a trip to the local supermarket with £300 in her purse. However, she works on a farm and isn't exactly well off, so I'd like to complete the job if possible.

hellsbrink 29th January 2011 12:40

Are you "installing" from a recovery partition, from recovery CD, or from Windows CD?

If from Windows CD then you should have the option to reinstall AFTER the option where you press "R" for recovery console no matter what.

Oh, the Admin password is nothing to do with the bios password. All you did was add a password to prevent someone from tinkering with the bios

None of the above 29th January 2011 12:51

Thanks, HB. That was quick!

I'm attempting an install with a Windows CD, full licence,etc.

After the preamble, I get:

1: C\WINDOWS

Which Windows installation would you like to log onto?

So, having entered '1' it then asks for the password which is where the fun begins, or possibly ends, depending on which way you look at things.

It's somewhat bizarre that I can't get straight into the 'Format' option.
I've even contemplated removing the HDD, hanging it on the end of the appropriate lead, and formatting it that way but given that it isn't my machine, I'm unwilling to delve.

Ta.

N o t a

ETA I don't get the option to press 'R'. The process just goes straight into the procedure outlined above.

mixture 29th January 2011 12:57


I'm attempting an install with a Windows CD, full licence,etc.

After the preamble, I get:

1: C\WINDOWS

Which Windows installation would you like to log onto?
What is this, a Windows 3.1 CD ?

I've never, ever been given a command prompt when doing a basic windows reinstall from a CD.

Sounds like a CD of dodgy origins..... :cool:

None of the above 29th January 2011 13:06


Sounds like a CD of dodgy origins..... http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/cool.gif
No, it's absolutely Kosher. I know because I bought and installed it.

She was given the machine some time ago but with no disks, (it didn't have a recovery partition) so when a re-installation was required she needed a Windows disk.
I've been through the procedure a time or two previously on this machine and I can't for the life of me remember what happened then.

N o t a

green granite 29th January 2011 13:10

There appears to be an administrators password that can be set or cleared in the bios, it's in the security section. Mean while here's a download for the service manual:
http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/edwin/...ebook%20PC.pdf

The other place to trawl through is : Compaq Evo N1020v - Tech Support Forum

None of the above 29th January 2011 13:26

Thanks gg.

The first page of the manual I looked at, was how to remove the HDD. If all else fails I might pursue that option. Although it is an old machine, I don't really want to start taking it apart, although HDD removal seems to be one of the less intrusive procedures.

Thanks again,

N o t a

A A Gruntpuddock 29th January 2011 13:35

Perhaps you could prepare a Linux disk to boot from the cd drive, then use Linux to copy the data files onto cd, dvd or usb drive before re-formatting the disk?

green granite 29th January 2011 14:11

Are you sure that you are booting from the CD? 1: C\WINDOWS sounds as though it's reading a corrupt/altered master boot record on the hard drive. Try restricting the boot device to the DVD reader only in the bios and take it from there, I presume you've checked the CD works ok in another M/C.

Parapunter 29th January 2011 14:31

That's exactly what I wouldd do. Boot up, press F8 to enter bios, set cd drive to be the first boot device, pop the disk in, save the bios changes & exit. The machine will reboot off the disk & off you go.

None of the above 29th January 2011 14:41

Yes, I'm definitely booting from the CD drive. Just checked it once again in the BIOS.
I've just used my own XP disk and proceedings halt at the same spot. That's after the files have loaded.

Just a few minutes before, I removed the HDD, connected it to an adapter and tried to format it by connecting it to another machine. That road was denied to me as I couldn't get the host machine to see the other drive.

Your efforts are appreciated, Gentlemen.

N o t a

mixture 29th January 2011 14:43

Do you only have one computer in the household ? Might be worth trying a CD from another computer if you have more than one ? (as long as it's one of the gold OEM ones, not a branded restore one).

None of the above 29th January 2011 14:49

Yes, sorry mixture. Last response was somewhat hurried.
I've tried to use both my own XP disk* and the owner's.
Just for some clarification, the machine will boot up but it is as slow as a snail on crutches, so I thought I'd start from scratch.

N o t a

*Both are genuine Windows XP disks complete with gold hologram finish.

None of the above 29th January 2011 15:04

OK Gents, I think there's some progress.

I noticed, just before the repair option appeared, that there was the briefest of appearances of the screen inviting fresh installation or repair.

I booted from the CD once more and just managed to stop proceedings at the correct spot. The machine is now about 40% of the way through copying files.

I can't emphasise how brief was the appearance of the options screen.

Thanks again, chaps.

N o t a

mixture 29th January 2011 15:25


The machine is now about 40% of the way through copying files.
Oh well, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you !

hellsbrink 29th January 2011 18:09


OK Gents, I think there's some progress.

I noticed, just before the repair option appeared, that there was the briefest of appearances of the screen inviting fresh installation or repair.

I booted from the CD once more and just managed to stop proceedings at the correct spot. The machine is now about 40% of the way through copying files.

I can't emphasise how brief was the appearance of the options screen.

Thanks again, chaps.
Now that is strange, sounds to me like there's something not quite right with the keyboard, a sticky key or something, so it jumps straight to the repair console instead of giving you the option you found. That would also explain the problem with the WINDOWS admin password (NOT THE BIOS ADMIN PASSWORD) as the console would "see" something so what you think of as a blank bit of the screen isn't really because of that sort of issue.

Loose rivets 29th January 2011 18:15

I use XP to format for the very reason suggested for Linux type boots.

I've had quite a lot of problems formatting the C drive with Vista and W7. ~ XP does the job.

I then format it fully, using the intended OS.

Having several logical drives is so handy. BUT, HP's backup disc that one creates for a new machine, ZAPS THE :mad: PARTITIONS.

Still have not had a reply from HP on this issue, despite executive customer relations inviting me to send in my thoughts.

stuckgear 29th January 2011 18:39

try these links...

Repair XP

Bootdisk.Com

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install

None of the above 29th January 2011 19:16

Thanks once again chaps.

On the final leg of installation now. As may be obvious, the large number of updates has slowed progress. I'm not sure about the processor speed, but I have a recollection that lack of RAM is behind the somewhat constipated nature of the machine. It's a couple of years since I last did a re-install on it and I'm pretty sure I told the owner that back then. I think I'll drop another hint that she should give serious consideration to replacing it. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that I investigated the possibility of installing more RAM but found that it was out of the question.
Before anyone else says it, my memory is somewhat lacking as well:\

N o t a

stuckgear 29th January 2011 19:33

maybe just upgrade the ram...

Memory upgrades from Crucial.com - About Crucial:Media Toolbox


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