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BOAC 13th April 2010 08:43

XP Safe mode/network
 
By all accounts (Google) there is no option to connect to a LAN in Safe Mode, which is a shame since it would enable another weapon in virus cleansing. Mine does not 'see' the LAN adapter in Safe. What exactly IS "Safe Mode with Network" and what can I use it for?

Saab Dastard 13th April 2010 13:20

From MS:


Safe Mode with Networking (SAFEBOOT_OPTION=Network): This option uses a minimal set of device drivers and services to start Windows together with the drivers that you must have to load networking.
SD

BOAC 13th April 2010 13:30

That's where I fall into the ignorance pit! What exactly does that mean? How will I connect to a 'network' if my LAN is not seen? What is 'load networking'?

Bushfiva 13th April 2010 13:41

Wired LAN only.

BOAC 13th April 2010 17:54

If by that you mean RJ45 to router, that is what I have. NVidia Nforce 10./100 Ethernet. Not there!

Saab Dastard 13th April 2010 20:53

Works for me.

What doesn't work for you?

SD

BOAC 13th April 2010 22:24

Well, like I said, my ethernet card just ain't there!

DG101 13th April 2010 23:11

BOAC

Try disconnecting or unplugging your router before booting XP in Safe Mode.

No guarantee, but I had a similar problem that was solved by connecting to the router after the PC had completed the full boot up sequence.

BOAC 14th April 2010 07:18

Thanks DG - will try later today.

Saab Dastard 14th April 2010 09:25

BOAC, do you mean that the NIC drivers aren't loaded or that the IP stack isn't loaded or that it hasn't got an IP address configuration?

SD

BOAC 14th April 2010 10:23

I just wish I knew! I don't know how to check any of that:confused:. Ethernet is on the mobo and runs normally in 'Normal' mode but is not even shown as Hardware in Safe Mode. .

I have also discovered that while I can 'enable' my wireless adapter in S Mode and it shows a connection and speed, I cannot connect to the internet with it.

DG - no joy there, I'm afraid.

BOAC 15th April 2010 07:55

Anyone able to offer advice on what to do re post #10? Simple English preferred:)

BOAC 15th April 2010 19:38

I would very much appreciate some Windows guru help here.

Can someone explain why a mobo ethernet chip is seen (and working) in normal mode but disappears in Safe with networking mode - and how to 'reinstall' it?

BOAC 15th April 2010 20:32

No. Not me Sir/Madam.
Any Windows gurus on call?

BOAC 15th April 2010 21:48

Saab post #6 - "Works for me."

Does not work for me. I cannot see that it is just a driver issue - the mobo ethernet chip is not even SEEN in safe mode. If it were drivers I could reinstall from the mobo CD.

I can see my wireless card, and it can 'see' the wireless network, but even then I don't seem able to connect that either. Bizarre. What can block the ethernet adapter in Safe mode? As I understand it I need neither drivers, services nor software just to see the adapter in device mgr - is that correct?

Bushfiva 16th April 2010 00:33

BOAC, what's the machine (& motherboard if you know it)?

BOAC 16th April 2010 07:37

Bf - Winfast (Foxpro) NF4UK8AC I think but Sys info comes up with a NF-CK804.

Proc is AMD Ahtlon 64 3000+ (939)

Once again - Ethernet is NOT SHOWN in device manager in Safe Mode with networking. No exclamation mark as there is nothing to 'exclaim'.

Tis there in normal. Has been uninstalled (in normal) and 're-installed'. Driver installation run in Safe mode from CDRom. Not sure where I will find the network drivers - are they not irrelevant at the moment? - but I would have assumed that the board CD driver installation would have done the job.

Back to Socal #14 - is there a known infection that paralyses only ethernet connections in Safe Mode?

Thanks for info on Wireless card. (Surprised, however, that it can see a network in Safe!)

BOAC 16th April 2010 16:51

How does it go? "here is no such thing as a stupid question..........."

Unless my menu is crook, I am selecting correctly. The desktop does not show any reference, however, to 'Safe mode with networking' but just 'Safe Mode'. How can I check? Am I correct in assuming that if it shows the wireless card it is ok?

BOAC 16th April 2010 19:44

From post #22

Unless my menu is crook, I am selecting correctly.
- you are correct about the symptoms!

EDIT: I've just run my HP Laptop (XP Home SP3) in that mode and there is perfect internet connection and a visible adapter. Am I perhaps missing some registry keys?

I've just compared the SAFEBOOT/NETWORK keys and they are identical except for a procexp90.sys, Data 'Driver' on the problem desktop (XP PRO SP3) which is not on the lap. (Different adapter). Cannot locate the .sys on the machine. According to info it should be in sys32/drivers.

Saab Dastard 16th April 2010 22:17

procexp90.sys is part of Process Explorer, the Task Manager replacement you have installed.

Hard to see that stopping the NIC drivers loading.

SD


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