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Keef 13th October 2009 21:11

Indeed so. I gave up on the HP scanner and the HP colour printer because the software was so awful. Gave 'em away. It took about two minutes from pressing the button to getting the scan - accompanied by all sorts of pictures of whirring cogs. The Agfa scanner just scans, with no faff. Sadly, Agfa got out of the scanner business, but my vintage one is still as good as anything I've seen.
It works flawlessly with Win 7, too.

The only niggle I have with Win 7 is that it doesn't work with my prehistoric SCSI card, so I can't use the SCSI CDRW or the older-still but even faster Agfa SCSI scanner.

Bruce Wayne 13th October 2009 23:42

good to hear that there is plenty of positive hard reports back on W7.

Through the problems i have had in the past I've just been lairy of adopting a new O/S at the outset..

FWIW i know server 2003's issues and it remains outside of direct connection to the WAN. i have a very specific network set up and the set up is very tight.

i also use some specialist software that vista doesn't like and am loathed to experiment with it on a new o/s.. likely i will upgrade the vista ultimate machine to W7 and bench test it before considering a change out. all the computers have been either built specifically for their purpose and my two laptops are non standard..

as for HP printers / scanners.. agree the hardware is spot on the software is a pain.. but thats another story...

will be very interested to keep seeing your feedback on w7 :ok:

green granite 14th October 2009 06:48


will be very interested to keep seeing your feedback on w7
BW see http://www.pprune.org/computer-inter...dows-7-rc.html which has been running here since April.

Mushroom_2 14th October 2009 07:55

I have 2 machines running RTM versions of Windows 7 Pro. Both were clean installs and have worked just fine. I love how it goes off and finds the correct drivers for video cards and other peripherals. Lots of stuff works without needing to load any driver software at all.

Only failure is my ancient Palm which will only run on an old version of Palm desktop.

From another who loathes Vista.

Sprogget 14th October 2009 07:58

Fwiw, I run an HP deskjet F4180 all in one number & Because of the just terrible software others have mentioned from HP, I just installed the driver & run the thing through windows fax & scan. It works fine from there.

seacue 14th October 2009 11:20

Very important programs I have written or maintain are in dBase for DOS or Borland C (for DOS). They use DOS graphics.

While they work fine on XP machines, I gather they won't be successful on Win7. [Thanks to Keef for trying one of them.]

We are going through the exercise of choosing a new database.
I don't look forward to porting the C programs to a Windows version of C.

Any experience or thoughts??

seacue

green granite 14th October 2009 11:43

You can use the "virtual XP" mode in W7: Windows Virtual PC: Get Started

Michael Birbeck 14th October 2009 11:48


We are going through the exercise of choosing a new database.
I don't look forward to porting the C programs to a Windows version of C.
Sounds like it is time to rewrite for the .Net environment using C# and MS SQL Server DB.

Exeprience, a pain the the derriere but surely something you will need to do!

I used love Borland C... :ok:

fleebag 14th October 2009 13:35

Agree with all the points mentioned in the article, nothing sounds like bashing to me, I've also had a hand full of BSOD as well to top it off. I'll probably upgrade after SP1 or SP2, but for now I've downgraded of RC1 back to XP. The no upgrade of XP is going to be a killer for the average user.

frostbite 14th October 2009 15:06

Whilst on the subject.......

Windows 7 holes plugged in record Patch Tuesday - ZDNet.co.uk

Gertrude the Wombat 14th October 2009 15:37


I don't look forward to porting the C programs to a Windows version of C.

Any experience or thoughts??
You could ask me for a quote :)

rgbrock1 14th October 2009 18:04

Windows 7? There are now 7 Windows? (Is that similar to the 7 scourges on mankind?) What does that all mean, I don't understand?

I use Linux. It's a real operating system.

<takes coat, hat, fake mustache and runs like he**)

Michael Birbeck 14th October 2009 18:06

Rgbrock1

Awk! :eek:

Sed like a true Linux man. Nothing UNIX in that.

Hat, coat etc.

rgbrock1 14th October 2009 18:08

Anything else would be CATastrophic Michael. MAN kind wouldn't have it any/other/way!!!!!!

green granite 14th October 2009 18:40

Interesting thought, the postal strike is set to start the same day as the pre-ordered Windows 7 should arrive. Is this deliberate one asks oneself. :(

Mike-Bracknell 14th October 2009 19:14

databases
 
Hi,

What's the purpose of your databases? and have you considered a web-based database instead?

:)

Mike.

izod tester 14th October 2009 21:46

Seacue, you could run your database in a DOS or XP virtual machine using VirtualBox.

Guest 112233 14th October 2009 21:54

Seacue
 
In my dim and distant past I was a FOXPRO programmer. Is the product still available - It might work in an XP Emulation.

CAT III

seacue 15th October 2009 00:31

Thank you all for the comments on my request for suggestions regarding my dBase and Borland C programs.

The organization where I volunteer is investigating a commercial database system vendor whose system resides on FoxPro. FoxPro still exists, but Microsoft says they will stop supporting it in 2015. That is a too-short timeframe for our organization. The vendor says that they will rewrite for some other (unspecified) system.

The C programs are my own hobby products. Their ancestry reaches back about 15 years and nothing major has changed in over five years. I have an unknown number of users who have downloaded the programs for free. The LARGE data files are updated each month for free download. You'll note the repeated use of "free", so I'm unwilling to pay for a port.

It is my understanding that Keef used the "virtual XP" mode in Win7. My programs didn't work right with that.

I suspect that I'll have to find someone locally with a Win7 system who will let me experiment. I've had too many other things on my plate for the past months to spend any serious time on this project.

Thanks to you all.

seacue

mustpost 15th October 2009 08:12

Just a quick tuppenceworth - been running 7 and virtual xp for quite a few months on a dual boot disk - nothing untoward to report.."Rare" drivers are gradually being updated


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