Can't take the credit for the Ctrl/F5 I'm afraid. It was posted on Jet Blast and worked for me so I just passed it on. Glad it worked for some though!

Jsl

Still haven't got back icons or smilies.

Most of the appearance is now normal, but the download speed is abysmal, but that could be New Zealand, which - I believe - has the greatest Broadband connection per capita of most of the Civilised (?) World, but the worst download speed - but Hey ! I didn't even have an Internet compter 10 yrs ago, so why am I now upset if it takes 30 secs per page to appear ?

How many of us would be writing the - usual - c**p that we write if we had to sit down and type, and post, a Letter to the Editor ?? !!!:ok:

If a count is being made, this change is just making reading this board more difficult for me. It must be a test of the determination us readers have to battle new challenges or a calculated ploy to reduce the number of hits at Prune.

SD,

When I started this reply I thought your fix had worked.

I deleted the 4 pprune cookies and then hit ctrl-F5. The missing icons on the page refreshed.

I opened this message reply and found the icons had all disappeared again. Even clicking Reload this Page, with its corrupted icon, did not work, nor did Ctrl-F5. Framing works OK however.

A little history of www.pprune.org...
 

From: Netcraft What's That Site Running Results

NOTAM
 

Before changes issue a NOTAM !

We are all navigating blind now!

BOAC published the reason and solution over on the mil forum.The website has changedThe website address is now www.pprune.org and www.pprune.org/forumsGo to pprune.org and then save as favourite and the icons will return. There is another problem The message format buttons are not working. When I click B or I or [b]U[/] nothing happens. In fact none of the buttons are working, Sunsweet

PPrune Website
 

Am I the only one seeing the website without any graphics (apart from the banner advertisments?

I've been seeing it like this since sometime last week, but all other websites that I've been to seem normal.

I had assumed it was a temporary problem (as I'm getting it on two different pc's), but I've seen noone else comment on it, so am wondering if it's just me?

dp

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3127/53984812px2.jpg

i see it normal. i use the last version of Safari

please list what browser you use

looks like IE7 if I'm not much mistaken.

Try clearing your browser cache;

tools / internet options

on the general tab click the delete option in browsing history and select delete "Temporary Internet Files"

Now restart your browser and come back to pprune

hope that works for you

Thanks guys.

Deleting the temporary internet files solved it, thank you very much :ok:

Strange that it happened at the same time on two different pc's, but solve now thanks to your help :D

dp

I hear pprune team has a server move or had to restore the database - this will happen to anyone with standard settings in most browsers.

Glad it sorted it for you

Ctrl F5 also sorts it immediately.

The problem I have is that Pprune now takes so long to load that I often get fed up and go elsewhere. other web sites are normal but this one has been really slow for a couple of weeks now.

I've had this recently too (Firefox 3) also pprune can be reaaaaallllllllyyy sloooooooooooooooooooooooow so I too go off to other sites whilst page loads.

Well, on my work PC(IE6) it changes willy nilliy from one to the other as I change pages. None of the "fixes" work, and it's mostly like this:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Gem/PPrune.jpgIs there a way to post when it's like this?

What MightyGem is seeing is what happens when the browser downloads the HTML for the page, but can't download the style sheet, images, javascript files, etc. The reason for this, presumably, is because PPRuNe now appears to be serving this static content from an edge serving network (specifically Akamai). Quite why they've felt the need to do this I really can't imagine. They have multiple servers to handle the dynamic load and the work involved in serving the static content is completely trivial in comparison.

It smacks of someone who likes a complex architecture just for the sake of it. The downside is exactly what people are seeing - it's more complex so there is more to go wrong.

Oooh, screen captures. Lots of information in screen captures. F'rinstance, I see Mightygem's using his work computer, is using "Microsoft Internet Explorer provided by Merseyside Police", has some kind of Merseyside Police Force app running, has something to do with Merseyside Police Air Support Group's G-XMII, EC135, and has what appears to be a bookmark to the NewTorrents.info site, "your 0day source" :}

Hey, we could employ you as an "observer". :D
(posted during one of those rare moments when the site is "normal"):ugh::ugh:

They look to be doing the load balancing via F5 BIG-IP. They're pretty much an industry standard, so unless they're misconfigured one might guess at a design flaw or stability issues on the back end. I see the site is at 3.6.8: The 3.7 series has been out since around April, and is currently at 3.7.2PL2. In the dim and distant past, getting the database caching right was a bit of a black art, too. And addons could cause random conniptivity.

Ooh, just spotted this: " vB 3.6.8 has known security issues so I *strongly* recommend that you upgrade to the latest version."

Yes and no :). It depends where the bottlenecks are and there could be many considerations. In a one-server-per-box, it's unlikely that you'll hit your max CPU utilization, LAN utilization, SAN utilization etc all at the same time. So it can make sense to bang more stuff on the machine.

Additionally, the software itself may have various limits independent of the hardware. So imagine a server setup where the bottleneck is, say, I/O because of software considerations. You're using 10% of your CPU and a few percent of your hardware's various I/O. Running multiple virtual servers makes better use of your CPU. Additionally, if you are hitting I/O limits, with some designs (blades, say) running multiple virtual servers reduces I/O across the network because much of the traffic remains within the backplane.

On very, very virtual systems, there are scaling benefits especially where I/O is not the limiting factor: if you buy the right kit from IBM, say, to get more power you phone 'em up, and some guy remotely turns the knob from 2 to 11 (and bills you more).

I've worked with systems where even the routers and SAN are virtual. Very hard to wrap a traditional little head around.

In the real world, there are other limitations: there are only so many cards you can bang in a machine for channel bundling, there is only so much power available per slot or rack, there is only so much thermal removal capacity across or up the racks, and of course there is only so much money.

looks like normal now

buttons work, site back to usual speed. well done

Buttons may work but I was not able to edit my earlier post.

But I was able to edit this post so it does look as if if is working OK on new posts.

Today has seen a very great improvement in the site access times. Credit to IB for sorting it out.

There are still some (hopefully minor) niggles to sort out, and some scheduled upgrades / updates over the next few days to resolve / improve these.

It's on the mend, folks!

Please continue to log any problems (hopefully not many) in this or the Problem Reporting Sticky.

Thanks

SD

pprune seems to be slow to change pages to me, but then. I am slow too......................................................... ...............dbee:bored:

Having been on holiday for a couple of weeks, I've been Ppruning on my Mac at home with the site looking normal. First day back at work(PC, IE 6) and login to PPrune and it's the minimalistic blue look. It changed back to normal, allowing me to post this, after about 15 page changes.

So it's still not fixed.

MightyGem,

I think it's your computer that's the problem! There's the PC cache, your work proxy and your ISP cache all to clear - have you tried ctrl-F5?

SD

Yes, tried Ctrl-F5, has no effect. It's also the same on other PCs in the office. It changes randomly as I change topics/pages. Pprune is the only forum that I use where it happens.

If your computer is office based are you on a microsoft network, like windows server 2003?

The server will cache webpages and give this exact symptom. Ask your IT people to clear the server cache for you. Sometimes IT people install internet 'accelerators' which speed up internet access by using a configurable cache.

Also (and something you could try first)
Go to each machine and (in your browser) click TOOLS / INTERNET OPTIONS on the general tab under browsing history click DELETE and remove FILES and HISTORY

Hope this helps

Discovered what the problem is. Our Force intranet has a Web Filter to stop us looking at sites like LadyBoys.com. However, some sites aren't so bad, so we are allowed to visit them for 15 minutes at a time. Normally this option comes up as soon as we click on a link, we click the 15 min button and the site loads.

For some reason, this doesn't happen with Pprune. Everything loads except things like the "Reply" and "New Topic" buttons. To get those, I have to visit a restricted site to get the 15 minutes and then go back to Pprune.