Cheers niteflight....

FS2000 was recently described by the owner of my flying school as 'like a copy of playboy - looks good but feels nothing like the real thing!' :)

The way I look at it, as a game, is that with the Flight sims there's not a whole lot of concentration involved, with ATCC there is...

Hahahaha Bear - pull up a chair.....

It sounds like you've downloaded the floppy install version of Tower. If you got it from the underdogs site I think it gives you two download options - one a complete version and the other a floppy version.

Dead easy to sort. All you need to do is create a directory in your TEMP folder called....I dunno....Tower or something! Then unzip each one of the six archives into that folder - they all go in the same place - make sure they do.

Then go into the folder and run the programme that may be called tower.exe or may be called setup.exe. If there'sa setup one run that. If not you should be able to then run and iunstall tower in the normal way.

So - to summarise....

1) Create a folder somehwere called Tower
2) Unzip each one of the zip files into the folder
3) Run Setup or Tower from that folder

And Bob's your Uncle as they say ;)

Hope that's of some use - if you need anymore help mail me at

[email protected]

and I'll be only too glad to help :)

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Thanks nightflight - I'll try that when I get back on the machine tomorrow...but last night I sat and vectored aeroplanes till 4 in the morning.

I'm beginning to hate that ATC simulator - and I feel a bit cheated, too......after four hours of vectoring through Chicago Sector 75, I got a score of ZERO.

Hey, it was only one lousy middair collission just south west of Badger VOR. Some programmes have no sense of humour.

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Hi all,

I don't suppose anyone could send me a save-game they have which is certified to work on each of the original sectors can you? I'm also downloading Tower now so you can expect my two cents worth (or in my case two pence worth) soon...

Ross
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ROFL - if only real life were just as simple Ross :)

I'll remember that next validation I have for my job - "Ummm - I'm not going to validate but can Joe Bloggs do it for me!!"

Fantastic :)

P.S. I might have one on the old C Drive somewhere - not usre 'cause I aint played it since I've had my new 'puter - I'll look anyhow

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Has anyone tried RADARSIM?
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...da/english.htm

The format looks exellent but I can't download the manual, consequently I am completely lost.

Why not try it online, providing ATC to FS98,2000,Fly and PS1 sim flyers. All realtime
It is a bit more daunting than a simple programme.
The link is www.satuk.org.uk/

...and for a taste of the latest MMI (man/machine interface) being researched at Eurocontrol, try this great simu for free:
ATC Interactive http://smilecwm.tripod.com/cwm/thinkerg.gif
http://users.skynet.be/atcsim/index.html

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Niteflite,

You see. You're getting the hang of it now. No point doing something yourself when someone else will do it. Delegation, it's the most important lesson you'll ever learn.

I'm checking out that ATC Interactive at the moment. I'll post back soon telling you what I though of it. TTFN.

Climb baby, climb!

Ross
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Hehehe yeah Ross, guess that's why I'll never be ATC management :)

I've tried the other sims.

The Eurocontrol one is perhaps the most interesting - give you a chance to see what is to become and what already is in place in some areas. I also like it 'cause there are plenty of UK sectors with it, including a LATCC Sector 7 one which is, of course, of local interest to me.

At the moment I believe there is only one UK based sector available for ATCC - the Goles sector one.

Visit:
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~sadunn/atcc.htm

and download a file called spongey5.zip for a whole load of new sectors for it :-)

Hmm might go and chack out that Radar sim one - from what I remember it's got a really tricky command system. Will give it a go anyhow.

By the way - Bear - did you sort "Tower" out? Just wondering!

Cheers all!

P.S. If my watch manager is reading this I really didn't mean it about the management bit ;)





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Downloaded "Tower"- great fun O'Hare at full tilt!Thanks for the Underdogs link:seems a good site for old games.

Niteflite....getting closer...got all six sections (in zip form) into a folder called C;\mydownoads\tower

Now tell me how to get them to all line up at the correct flight levels....still cannot figure the zip beastie.

LOL Bear :)

OK - unzip all of the zipped files into that very same folder. You want to contents of the zip files in the folder. Then you should be able to click on install or whatever and there you go ;)

I don't know how good you are with Winzip but just in case - what you need to do do is open the zip file, click on the button that says "EXTRACT" select the folder where you ant the stuff to go and click on OK.

I'm probably telling you how to suck eggs :)

Let me know how you get on Bear.

carbheat - glad you liked the site - it is an excellent source of oldish games and some new ones too.

I like Life and Death - playing a doctor and surgeon - cool. If only it had real nurses http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/cool.gif



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Niteflite (to Venus..remember that record? Boney M - yuk)..anyway...egg sucking lesson worked a treat.

I now have numerous little files worming around the hard drive - all called "tower1.unzip"...but...it works. (Yeeeaaaahhhhhh).

SNAG IS (there's always a snag), every time somebody 'speaks' on the r/t, I get a box saying (ding) "Say Sentence - Error allocating global memory block of size *****"

The error MESSAGE is always the same - the "memory block of size" is always different...in the example I copied down it was "572383249" - but I don't know what units that is in.

Next query...I saw on television (some years ago) that the ATCC training centre in Bournemouth had a computer programme that gave a vertical view of the runway patterns, taxiways and all stands at LGW - aircraft would call for taxi (inbound and out) and you had to do your stuff to prevent insurance claims.

OK, computer gurus...where do I get a copy of that...or similar?

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Believe me Bear you DO NOT want a copy of that little programme :)

It is a silly programme called "SIMTAC" and is basically a "procedural" simulator for VCR controllers. It requires an input from the aircraft point of view - that's where people called ACPO's come in. They basically do the RT bit for the aircraft and actually move them by drawing horrid little lines all over the shop using a mouse.

It is, therefore, totally useless for the home - unless you like talking to yourself that is ;)

Don't even go there is basically my message there. The prog isn't available on the net or indeed over the counter as it is a specialist training tool - as people who are regularly "Seaton Tower" (name of the fictitious airfield used by the College) will tell you. Good for work - very very very bad for home!

On the further problem with Tower - hmmmmm - not sure on this one. Which soundcard do you have installed in your PC? Come to think of it - what are the overall specs of your PC?
Perhaps someone who knows a little about the mechanics of a soundcard could help here ;)

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OK...guess I don't want that programme....know of anything similar? I'd like it as a guide to R/T and aerodrome operations for student pilots.
Anyway...my spec....Pentium 3, 750MHz, 128MB Ram, 30GB hard drive, 32MB video card, 32bit Creative Labs Sound Card.

That should run World War 3 - never mind a Tower programme.

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[This message has been edited by Bear Cub (edited 10 October 2000).]

Talking about flt sims & the real thing!!! Well, check out PS1 (a B747-400 precision sim)at http://aerowinx.com/. Now that "IS" the real thing.

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Hi all,

Alright then here's another challenge for y'all. Can anyone find me an FMC simulator that is dependant of a simulator so I can see how one works. (Or one for FS '98) either way it's got to be free! If you can help me with my electronics project, to create a sort of independant flight aid then please e-mail me at the address below. An avionics type person would be handy.

Ross
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I had a simulation years ago on an old C64, called Kennedy Approach, it was VERY BASIC, but much fun to use. Would anyone know of a way of obtaining this for a PC ?

Regards,

"lame"

lame

There is a quite a few C64 Emulators available for the PC.

First you will need an emulator. I recommend CCS64
http://www.computerbrains.com

or you may like VICE
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dsladic/vice/vice.html

There are many sites where there you can get C64 games. Try this link for your Kennedy Approach game. It give several sites where you can get it.
http://www.c64.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/m...nguage=english

Cheers