- well, I jurst lurv kwyptic kwosswords, but any chance you be a little more specific?

Which drivers? AMD processor or what?
Does the update require specific drivers?
If my machine is working ok at the moment does that mean I have the right drivers?

I was being facetious - with a clean install it is nearly impossible to load the wrong drivers. Drivers are only loaded at install / setup if the corresponding hardware is detected - equally true of chipset (AMD / intel) or graphics or sound etc.

SD

XP SP3 won't install
 

Recently downloaded XP SP3, when trying to install it, I get the message "The file c\windows\system32\xpsp2res.dll is open or in use by another application, close all other applications and click retry" which I do, click retry and get the message "an internal error occurred, the service pack could not install".

I'd like to avoid another lengthy call to Orange (India) Ltd, so if anyone has any ideas I'd be most grateful. My system is currently running XP SP1.

Thanks,

R5

AMD systems thrown by XP SP3 update
 

Does this info help anyone?

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9416138,00.htm

Yeah, I'd already stated that the problem lies with the OEM's in the SP3 thread here: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpos...7&postcount=37

Embarrassing for a large company like HP to be found out like this. You'd expect better from them.

Sorry, Hurn. I did recall that I'd seen something of the sort in 'my' other thread but I was a bit pushed for time to look for it.

(not to mention too bloody lazy)

Could do with a thread merge here?

Hurn - I reckon from your info my desktop AMD is OK. Yours was the first specific mention of 'HP'. My laptop is an HP Pavillion.:uhoh: Is there a work around?

Depends whether its an Intel or AMD based laptop I guess.

If its Intel, there should be no problem as they seem to have used images based on intel configurations from what I've read.

If its AMD then your results may vary! :}

Do HP supply an XP disk which can be used for running repairs with, or do they just have a hidden recovery partition (OS image) on the hard drive?

Readability 5 Try obtaining SP2 and installing it before installing SP3.

Hurn it is the usual 'cheapo' partition job. I made a 'rescue' set of CDROMs on purchase. I also have my 'pukka' XP CDROM and have asked here before about just installing that - and been warned of all sorts of potential probs with drivers etc.

I'll have a shufti at the processor as a start!

EDIT to add: Hopefully good news! :cool:I have an Intel Celeron

Already tried that and it came up with exactly the same error message. It shouldn't matter though, because Microsoft says the update is cumulative and can be installed on top of SP1 or SP2.

R5

Readability 5,
Since nobody more knowledgeable than me has offered a resolution yet, I'll have a go.
There is a possibility of finding what application is using the .dll with Unlocker
It's not always successful, I believe other programs like Process Explorer or A2 HijackFree may be better analysis tools, but I honestly don't know enough about them to recommend their use. (Can use myself, can't safely talk someone else through it.)
If you can right click on the .dll prior to attempting the SP3 install, it might tell you the "locking handle". First step then is to try and shut down that program, if it's not intrinsic to windows or update. (Hopefully it will be a third party software, that can easily be set to not start with Windows.)Then see if it's still locked. If not, presto.
If no luck there, I'd probably look at asking on the appropriate MS newsgroup/forum.

- good advice, and thanks. 2 laptops and desktop safely backed up every month to my 500GB external USB.

Just need your address to bring my Laptop round to when it blows on update....................:p

I've just installed SP3 on an AMD machine and an Intel machine, and both seem to work OK. Both were SP2.

Curiously, the installation on the AMD PC opened up a DOS box with a load of "unrecognised command" (or similar) lines scrolling up inside it at a great speed, but it all seems to run afterwards...

Works for me ...
 

I run an AMD 64 bit processor with XP SP2.

This machine has run rock solid for about 7 years now; it never crashes or requires a re-boot and runs 24/7.

After reading that SP3 might compromise AMD machines, and I don't trust Bill, I have decided to decline the update until I have more time for further investigation. (Did I mention I work full time, (two jobs) have a wife, three kids and a dog?)

I have declined the SP3 update and told the updater to not offer it again.

I still receive later dated security and other updates for both Windows XP and Office 2007 in the normal way. My choice is to be notified of available updates, but let me decide which to install.

Works for me ...

Two Dogs



EDIT: Time to switch to UNIX ...

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9291784,00.htm

Well, SP3 installed fine on the back up....

But on the primary, I keep getting 'Access Denied'. When it eventually hands control of the computer back to me, checking the 'Update History' tells me that an 0x80070005 error was the problem.

WTF is an 0x80070005? On another occasion, it identified a 0x8007F02B.

This was when trying to use the Microsoft Update, rather than the Automatic Updates.

Can anyone advise what the cause - and remedy - of this problem is likely to be?

An 0x80070005 error is an "Access Denied" error. ;)
Suggested things to check: You are running as an admin; you disabled the AV/other security software (be disconnected when doing this) before installing the update.
More info here.

Sorry, but that doesn't mean a thing to me.

Access to what is denied - and by whom?

I really hate those meaningless Microsoft messages!

Some files, registry applications etc are locked from alteration. So if something tries to write an entry and doesn't have the privilege required, access is denied. (I find a most of those error messages a bit, ummm, generic in nature, too.)
Did you check the link/suggestions above? Any answers?

Well, I looked at that site, but was put off trying anything because it was so poorly written and it wasn't clear whether the 'solutions' offered were options or had to be completed in sequence.

I did remove Spybot Search and Destroy whilst I tried again - but it made no difference. In any case, it hadn't affected the other machine.

As for 'running as an admin' - what on Earth does that mean?

Running as Admin is the type of user account you use. An Administrator account has pretty much global permissions over the computer. A limited user account has much reduced permissions, and generally can not install nor uninstall nor update most software that affect more than that account.
Go to Control Pnael>User Accounts and look at the account you use. (Your logon.) It will say whether it is an admin account or not.
The options on the site I linked are generally intended to be sequential. If the first one doesn't solve the problem, try the second. If that doesn't help (and you still want it fixed badly enough) try the third, if you're up for it.
Think about what is different between the two machines. Do they both have the same settings, firewall, and antivirus? Is anything running on the primary that isn't present on the backup?

Both accounts are identified as 'computer administrator'.

The only difference I can quickly establish is that the AntiVirus 'Enable Script Blocking' is ON for the computer with the 'Access Denied' issue, whereas the AntiVirus version on the other computer has no such option?

I tried installing with the 'Autoprotect' disabled, but still got the 'Access Denied' warning. Presumably that made no difference because nothing was being actively downloaded from the Internet (I'd unplugged the connection to the router).

Would selecting 'Enable Script Blocking' OFF be likely to make any difference?

I wouldn't think "enable script blocking" should make any difference to a program update, that's more to prevent dodgy items in hijacked or dodgy web pages from running.
What AV is it? And is it the same AV on both?
Ditto question the firewall.
Ditto question any other application eg antispyware/behaviour blocker etc.

I have to tell you I'm not an expert, but have troubleshot a few of this type of issue.
Is the primary, perchance, an HP or Compaq presario with AMD processor?

BEagle try reading this Microsoft support document: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377

You may need to dive into some of the links in it as well.

Well, a couple of months later and SP3 downloaded itself automatically, but still came up with 'Access Denied' when I tried to install it.

The Microsoft support site just sent me round in circles, so I gave up and rang them.

2.5 hours on the phone with a very patient and helpful chap and we found the problem - 'registry permissions', whatever those are. Plus I needed to free up some space on the hardrive - although that hadn't been an issue before.

All then installed and re-booted fine. Thanks, Manish!

So, 3 months on from first post - I am still 'holding back. :) What's the verdict, guys? Any probs generated?

It's as it was then... SP3 is mainly a rollup of the fixes released post-SP2. If you're fully patched there's hardly any difference. There's a few things under the hood to facilitate Windows Server 2008 (yuck!) connectivity, but not much to write home about.

As Windows service packs go, it's rather uneventful.

True, but when I asked what was the point of installing SP3 when I was already up to date with all other downloads, the Microsoft chap told me that many new programs, such as subscription Antivirus updates, will require you to have XP SP3 as the minimum OS.

I follow a broadcasting Web group here in the USA. One member, who is the IT person for a cluster of stations, says that some of the software they require will NOT run under SP3. I haven't dared try it on "mission critical" computers. I think one should be prepared to uninstall SP3 if one chooses to try it.

SP3 will not allow the address bar to be put into the taskbar which is a real inconvenience to some of us.

I am back on SP2

MC

XP3 Update causing wireless netwok probs - Older Kit.
 

I have fould that XP SP3 upgrade kills the inbuilt wireless on my AJP 900 Series notebook clone. It installs just fine; but WPA connectivity is lost (I'm using WPA1 - I.E the TKIP variation - because I have older kit sharing my network) - Microsoft have released a Registery Fix to prevent XP3 form automatically installing - Its here Disable XP SP 3 and Vista SP1 From Windows Automatic Updates » Raymond.CC Blog - or google XP Blocking Tool - Its reverseable too.