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What PC shall I buy?
The time has come to update my PC. It's about 5 years old, abysmally slow, and since I installed Norton Anti-Virus 2004 (Norton 2002 flatly refused to work or update!) it's almost given up altogether. :(
But what to buy, and where? I have a catalogue from Novatech; their prices are good, and I bought a flat screen from them some time back. But some people say I should buy locally so I have local back-up. There used to be a small local guy who was great, but he's gone out of business. Some people say PC World are OK; others don't like them, and I don't know why. What to buy? I need it mainly for PPRuNing, internet, emails etc. I might conceivably use my flight sim now and then. I have a digital camera, and would like to be able to store and send photos without the PC crashing as it does now. I'd like a CD Writer for similar reasons. I suppose being able to play DVDs might be nice some day...how do I decide what I'll want in the future? So, do I buy an entry level PC, which is far better than I've got now? Or do buy the best I can afford, even if it's far too sophisticated for my present needs? And what sort of specifications do I want? And does the type/make make any difference? I plan to keep the same screen, printer etc, and there's a local guy in the village who can help me set it up and hopefully sort out any initial problems. All opinions gratefully received, but don't get too technical; I can't understand much more than the basics of how these things work. Thanks in advance, Whirly |
Whirly
Why don't you consider a Mac? You can do all the stuff you do now (or fail to do now!) except run MS Flight Sim (and you can even do that if you run an emulator, but you did say not to get too technical!) ;) If you really want a sim, you could always treat yourself to the wonderful X-Plane instead. The best thing is, as you said you weren't very 'techie', that it will be a doddle to set up and use, will work straight out of the box and will continue to do so. PM me if you need any more info - good luck with your search! Jx :::::waiting with baited breath for the inevitable flak from Richard:::::: |
I was recently in the same position and ended up going for a Dell. PC World are a nightmare unless you agree to buy one of there overpriced and unneccesory warranties. Only go for a MAC if you are familiar with them and need to use them for Video/Music (I don't want to start a mac v pc debate - i work with computers for a living and Mac's are good for certain things and the look pretty but are not really the best way forward for the majority of people).
Dell were effecient and the machine is seriously good value. |
Whirlybird, I have to second the idea of getting a mac. An iMac sounds like just what you need. They all come with CD writers, I use X-plane as a flight sim which is excellent and will run fine on the new G4 imac. Apple make uploading photos from a digital camera extrmemly easy and it doesn't require any addition software. Email and internet are also extremely easy to configure (in fact, if you have LAN, ADSL, Cable, DLS or airport [wifi] connection, it will configure itself for you).
There are also quite a few distribtions of linux now that will run on a mac if you don't fancy using the mac os interface. Last time I looked, you could get an imac for under £1,000. Failing that, you could also get an eMac. They're not quite a pretty as the imac (they resemble more the older CRT imacs) but they do the job fine, are just as easy to set up as the imac and the newer G4 eMacs are surprisingly powerful for what they are and what you pay for them (i think you can get one for around £800). Feel free to PM me if you want more info. |
IMO, the "upgrade it later" argument is something of a red herring.
New mother board and processor, new memory (because your old won't work in the new mother board), new large hard disk, etc, and what you will have done is to jack up the old case and replace all its innards. The case and power supply might cost 50 quid. I have assembled my own DOS/Windows machines since the 486. I wouldn't do it at today's price of already-assembled systems. SC |
Whirlybird,
It is all up to you. It is what you think you would do with a computer if you had a fast computer with a good connection to the Internet. You cannot use what you do now as an indication of what you would do on a computer, since you said it is "abysmally slow" and "crashing". One thing is, you keep your computer for a long time. Most Dead End Systems only come with a 1 year warranty if you are lucky and they are made out of OEM parts. If you build your own computer or you have a person build a computer for you, then you get Retail parts that come with a 3 year warranty and they can be easily upgraded. If you would like to build your own or have someone build one for you, we would be happy to advise you on which parts would be the best option for your current needs and perceived future needs. I would not recommend buying a bottom of the line computer or the most expensive you can afford, usually neither are a good value in the end. The trick is getting a computer built with best bang for the buck components and can be upgraded. Take Care, Richard P.S. WeatherJinx, no flak here. Everyone is equally entitled to their own opinion and I respect that, no matter how wrong it is. ;) |
Some seriously irrelevant advice being given here methinks, given that Whirly asked to keep the techie side out of it. The Mac pushers really should tell her how much new software she's going to be up for, shouldn't they?
Whirly, from a non-guru, if you have somebody you know and trust who will set it up for you and provide after sales service on a personal and local basis, my strong advice would be to use him. There are thousands of alternatives which will do the job for you, don't lose too much sleep over the precise details. As you have noted, even the basic entry level computer will be streets ahead of what you have now, so sit down and have a talk to him, tell him what you need and what you want to pay, and let him make the decisions. Good luck |
My young lady bought me a Mesh 8210xi for Christmas (lucky me on two counts!)
Their website is well worth a look, you can build something to your own spec and (so far) I have got truly outstanding performance, all for just over a grand. I had decided to build my own until it turned up on my doorstep, wonderful surprise! http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated/index.htm |
Fitzy,
I like the way you think. :ok: Whirlybird, I was playing around with the Build your own Comp feature and came out with: (It would help if you gave us a price range you were shooting for.) Matrix A Power BTO (Feb04)
Price Excluding VAT: £ 692 (You can see where I tossed in some upgrades. I did not put in a monitor, since you said you already bought one.) Still well below the price of an iMAC ;) Take Care, Richard |
i work with computers for a living and Mac's are good for certain things and the look pretty but are not really the best way forward for the majority of people). Since you 'work with computers' and are obviously an expert, could you enlighten us at to what can a PC do that a Mac can't, exactly? Justify your grand, sweeping statement with evidence. Binos How can you say that the advice I offered was irreverent? In no way would I mislead a fellow Prooner into making an ill-informed purchase. Whirly is free to buy what she likes. You normally keep your arguments reasonable - I am surprised by your comments. I inform her from the standpoint of many years of happy, trouble free, virus-free and crash-free computer use; I am constantly being called upon by PC-owning friends to help them with seemingly endless viruses, BSODs and other nightmares. I too use a PC at work - I just know what I'd rather spend my own money on and there are many on PPRuNe (take a bow the mod on this forum and its owner to name but two ;)) who would tend to agree. Ordinary, non-techie people can do without the kind of nonsense described above and that is absolutely what a Mac delivers. Plus a bundle of software included in the price that means she will want for nothing - and wave goodbye to PC viruses - for good. Jx PS Richard - appreciate your footnote! I was merely offering you some bait :D |
WeatherJinx
I never once alluded to being an "expert" as you put it - one aspect of my job is to look after and develop the IT system of one of the companies I work with. I never said a PC could do something a mc could not - I just ventured an opinion as one was sought from the original post. In fact I specifically said I did not want to enter into a debate with reference to the pros and cons of mc's v pc. The simple fact is lots of people use pc's (which is not an indication that they are in any way better) and therefore software is cheap and plentiful and most people can help if you have a problem. Oneof the downsides to Pprune is people like you,who come back with remarks bordering on being rude when all I ventured was an opinion. Get a life. |
Timbo
I didn't intend to be rude to you, and apologise if that is how you saw my riposte. This is a fairly 'lively' bulletin board, however, so you shouldn't expect assertions (informed or otherwise) to go unchallenged. If you want to see rude, check out 'Rumours and News' :E |
Thanks for all that, people. Thoughts so far:
I don't want a Mac, because I don't want the hassle of learning anything new - and I'm sure I'd have to! And I don't want to spend close to a grand either! Everything people say about them is good, IF you have the time and energy to learn it all. I don't. I'm not actually that interested (arggghh, I said that, on the computer forum!!!!!!!!!). I just want to be able to carry on pressing buttons as I have been for years, no more. So Binos had it about right. But you weren't to know that - there are degrees of non-techieness!!! Make up my own! Arggghhhhhh. I'm sure it's a good idea, and I could probably learn to, but at the moment...no way; I can't even transfer all the stuff from my old one to my new one without help. I know just about enough to know that walking into PC World and putting myself at the mercy of a 16 year old salesman is a Bad Idea (actually, the said 16 year old salesman treated me like a silly lady who knew absolutely nothing and didn't have a single brain cell, and I walked out), but not much more. OK, I'm looking at Novatech's catalogue, and thinking about the following: Sigma XP 2400 FX AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 512MB PC2700 333MHz DDR RAM 80GB 7200rpm Hard Drive 128MBDDR GeForce FX5200 AGP Card CDRW/DVD Combo Drive 16 Bit 3D Sound on-board (AC '97) 10/100 RJ45 Network Port 56K Modem With Windows XP Home Edition, £479.40 including VAT, plus about £20 delivery. Any comments? |
Whirly, I'm sure there'll be comments about your suggestion, and I don't know the brand names, reliability or anything else, but if you're looking to spend minimum dollars the specs on that system will provide you with everything YOU need, and be so far ahead of your current system you'll be amazed.
WeatherJinx, Sorry if I came across unreasonably. As you know I have pondered the thought of getting a Mac myself, and maybe they are worth paying double the price Whirly is suggesting with her barebones system. Maybe not. I tend to post here only to ask questions as a definite non-guru, and if I happen to offer advice, it's usually from the same perspective. I think I'm often closer to understanding the needs of the bottom end user than a lot of well-meaning people who are so excited by their own systems, or in some cases, knowledge, that they forget the person asking the question is not going to have a clue what they're talking about. Those are the rare occasions I feel I can be of some use. And it wasn't you I was referring to in my first post. ;) I hope nobody took offence, I could just see things getting further away from what Whirly asked for. Cheers, Binos P.S. And Whirly, from what I've seen and heard about Macs, the whole idea is that you don't have to worry about learning new things. They are MUCH more intuitive and friendly than PC's. But they are more expensive (fact) and a lot of your years of software accumulation can suddenly be rendered useless. (I won't call that a fact, but I suspect it is.) :8 |
Binos
No worries mate ;) It just annoys me that (and I'm not talking about you here) some of the old anti-Mac myths and mantras still seem to stick; usually repeated by those who have never even used a Mac. I think they may have held a drop or two of of water at some point, but not for years now: Check out the eMac - £649 including monitor - this is truly a bargain for the budget-conscious! And remember - you are buying a top quality manufactured product from a world-class brand here - not some 'Bundle O' Bits' from God knows where. True, an iMac will set you back just under a grand for the lowest-price model, but often 'street' prices are lower; and again that includes a monitor (in this case a stunning flat-panel TFT display - great for simming). As to the old 'theres too little software' chestnut - Macs have all the old favourites, MS Office, Photoshop etc. - plus thousands upon thousands of other apps, from games and business tools to music composition, video editing suites to CAD suites and DNA sequencers. This so-called 'argument' really is uninformed bo**ox. Speaking of software, all Macs come fully loaded with it - a full business suite, games and utilities, plus the much-admired 'iLife' collection. Whirly Glad you appear to have found a solution to your ageing computer problem. I suffered the same feeling until I replaced my almost 7yr-old Mac with a 17" iMac last year. As Binos suggests, it really is like stepping into another world when you upgrade! That spec looks fine and good value for money, seeing as you have decided to take the PC route. Good luck and happy button-pushing! Jx |
Whirlybird,
I have been trying to get a feel for what you want to do and what you want to spend. I took that you want to play a flight sim, play DVDs and burn music. The GeForceFX 5200 is a very weak Video Card. It is not something I would recommend. It will have a lot of trouble with the next Generation of Sims. (Since I figure you will be keeping this computer for a long time.) If you are going to watch movies and listen to music, 16 Bit 3D Sound on-board (AC '97) is not going to give you much sound. (Also I do not know if the computer you listed comes with speakers.) Also I did not see Keyboard Mouse or any kind of Warranty with the computer you listed. I will check out their website and see what all they are offering with the computer. Take Care, Richard P.S. Sure looks like the Militant MACers have come out in this thread. (All that testosterone flying around this thread!) :eek: |
Richard
Who's being militant? Just stating my opinion - something you seem to do more than your fair share of...this is a bulletin board after all :rolleyes: Whirly's clearly not a power user. Why are you trying to talk her into the absolute top-of the line uber-geek PC components? The spec. she described is plenty for her stated requirements. :confused: You seem to always have to go 'one up' on advice other posters give (viz. your bandwidth-hogging response on the 'joystick' thread). Perhaps you should get out more. Jx |
Whirlybird,
I was looking at the Sigma XP 2400 FX Specs on the Novatech website. I think you should look at the site Fitzy mentioned. It is a better computer and will work better in the future for you too. The nForce2 Motherboard that Mesh uses is excellent. The Novatech Computer is a mATX Format and is pretty much Dead End. (It only has a one year warranty too.) Do look around the Mech Computer Website and see if there is anything that might interest you. Take Care, Richard P.S. Remember that it is your money, you spend it any way you want. Do not worry about anything we say here, in the end it has to be something you are happy with. P.P.S. WeatherJinx, looks like our posts crossed. I think time to switch to Decaf there. TCS and I are having a good time but you seem to be taking everything a little to personally. We are all friends here, no reason to get heated. Sorry you did not like my high bandwidth post in the joystick thread. You know, if your MAC cannot handle the high bandwidth post like that, I am sure TCS and I can point you in the direction of a good PC. :ok: |
Hey Rich..I'm enjoying myself too! :E
I'll pass up on your offer of a 'good PC' though (an oxymoron, surely?) - don't think I could cope with the downtime ;) BTW, my machine has no problem with the bandwidth - it's a Unix-based broadband screamer! I was just gently hinting that the use of hyperlinks might have been a little more appropriate for a 'labour of love' site such as PPRuNe, that's under server strain even at the best of times.. No personal offence taken at the other stuff..I'm partial to the odd wind-up myself :E Jx |
I bought from Carrera 6 months ago, so far no problems, you also get 3 years on site + 2 years rtb warranty.
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spannersatcx,
I clicked on their AthlonXP 2500+ and these were the specs:
£699.00 excl. VAT Nice system. Take Care, Richard |
What is it that turns Mac users more evangelical that born again non-smokers?
Well, I have more than enough experience and qualifications in the IT industry (where I still work) and I use a (corporate laptop) PC at work and a Mac at home. I finally saw the light at the end of 2002. Why Mac? It works! It doesn't fall over or need drivers for every new camera or peripheral. It comes with all the software most people need (Audio, Video, Web and Office) and a bit more besides. And it's pretty. When my PC laptop dies, I’ll be looking for ways to get the company to fund a Mac replacement. If you’re looking for reliable personal computing, it can’t be beat. (And getting used to OS X will take about a day, after which you’ll be dusting off your own soap box). Posted from my iMac, which hasn’t had a reboot for more than 3 months |
WeatherJinx & Land After,
Getting back to serious debate, we know MACs are stable, but remember PCs have been Stable since the Release of WinXP, so it is a non issue. Whirlybird, Getting the thread back on track here. I took a good look at the three websites. (Novatech, Carrera, and Mech) I found Mech Computers to be at the top, Carrera second, and Novatech a distant third. I would highly recommend looking at the three websites and comparing options. Take Care, Richard |
Richard,
Thankyou; I'll take a look at that website. Binos, Many thanks for understanding where I'm coming from. I was beginning to think I should run away yelling and screaming from a forum full of lovely well-meaning people, but who who spoke a language I didn't understand and couldn't be bothered to learn. Anyway, another question. PC World's website has a PC with a similar spec to the one I posted. It's on their homepage, and it's the "Emachines Intel 2.4GHz PC" etc. It comes with a monitor (which I don't need but can sell) and software which I would use. It's only £429!!! It's reconditioned, but a friend said that might be even better than new, as it will have been thoroughly checked over. Now, I know lots of people think PC World are wonderful, and lots won't touch them, but I've never heard of any reasons why, on either side. I hate their shops because (a) they treat me like a brainless idiot, and (b) they try to hardsell their overpriced and unnecessary extended warranty. But this is an on-line only deal, and sounds fine for what I want. Any opinions? Finally, I'm sure this Mac v PC stuff is ever so interesting and useful. But I'm barely PC-literate, and old (relatively!) and set in my ways and I'm not listening, and I can't understand the finer points anyway. So please please take that discussion elsewhere! :) |
dear Whirls, never mind the 'being old & set in yer ways'. When our PC went critical last summer I tried to convince the rest of the family that a MAC would be the way to go. (Dan & Squiddy having convinced me of it's ease, exellence & lack of conventional probs) But despite their being only 15 and 17, kids flatly refused to even consider it. So you're in young company there mate. ;)
But we did need a new apparatus for prooning & gaming so what I did after licking my MAC wounds was similar to what you are doing now. I ended up with giving a call to Dell, telling them what we use the PC for and how much money we were willing to spend. They then adapt one of their packages for you, send you the specs by e-mail and if you agree, you get the whole lot via conventional mail sent home. Price-wise they were pretty good, and everybody's happy with the way the machine works. I still go and drool in MAC stores every chance I get, who knows, one day.................. |
I recently got a new set-up, but I'm not going to embarrass myself by telling you all about its specs, mainly because I haven't a clue (didn't have to make those decisions) but I did insist on some really important features (to me) which I'll mention.
Most importantly a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. I will never go back to corded ones ever again, certainly not for a mouse. It's wonderful! Also have one of those flat plasma screen monitors which takes up so little room on my desk that I can put all sorts of clutter between the monitor and me now. Fantastic clarity, too. Finally I now have a drawing whatsit (tablet?) with electronic "pencil" for when I fiddle with photos and other things. It's really easy to use, well, once you get used to it, anyway. Great gadget. Okay, back to the big boys...... |
One more for the pot Whirly as you're determined to stay PC.
Any of the companies mentioned will build a decent PC but spend any time on this maddening forum and you will see support is the real issue - software, operating system, drivers and comms. I'd suggest very strongly you have a look at Evesham. Their PC's are the same but I'm pushing you their way because of their 'big brother' support system. As well as all the usual on-site tech and repair stuff each time you log on they will contact you if there are any updates, security patches or new drivers for your system and they send them down the line to you. Your PC stays tuned, current and virus free by logging on. Regards Rob |
Stormy,
Ah, someone on here who speaks my language. :ok: I already have a flat screen, bought last year when I decided my old PC would last another year but I needed more space and something that wouldn't hurt my eyes. It's wonderful! I wanted a cordless keyboard and mouse, but couldn't get one with my old PC; can't remember why. But that'll be next. Rob, Thanks, good point. No-one's commented on the PC World good deal yet. Are PC World taboo on here? :eek: |
Whirly I forgot to mention I have a webcam. It's so much fun. When I talk to my relatives in remote locations, we can see and hear each other and best of all, it's without the additional cost of telephone calls.
I am always cautious about privacy though, and even though it seems like you are controlling when it is on or off, mine always has a little green light above the camera, probably to show that there is power, but I'm a suspicious sort, so I cut off the toe of a sock and keep it over the top like a lid, unless I'm using it. Call me cautious, but if I'm roaming around, well, less than fully dressed, I'm not risking that camera being on without me knowing. Actually, as I've used it more, I find that whereas I was quite self-conscious in the beginning, and watched the screen which showed myself to see that I didn't look like a total moron, there's a tendancy now to forget about it, which can be tricky. It's amazing what people do while sitting at their computers, without thinking about being seen - just a word of warning for new users. Of course on this forum, you've probably all been using such things for decades and wonder where I've been hiding to be so excited about all these gadgets these days. Have fun Whirly. |
Re. PS World, Dixons, et al
Whirly
Don't shoot until you can see the whites of their socks! I'd venture that even though we're, ahem, debating vigorously about the merits or otherwise of Mac vs. PC, we'd probably tend to agree that these stores should avoided at all costs - the staff and management are merely uninformed cannon fodder, designed for the sole function of selling unnecessary extended warranties (the no. one contributor to their bottom line). In the main, these retail-bots are pre-programmed to have no interest whatsoever in ensuring Whirly gets the right system; or indeed enjoys excellent after-sales care. The only time I use them is when I see something with a bargain price tag and I know precisely what I want (as in my recent joystick purchase). Then it's: In -> Buy-> 'No thanks, I'll pass on the warranty' ->Out I'd stick with one of the companies already mentioned, or your local guru. In a previous life, I used to do some graphics work for Carrera - they seemed like decent people. Jx Stormy - Why don't you just unplug the cam when not using it? No, on second thoughts, stick with the sock - it's a much funnier mental image! ;) |
Go on WeatherJinx, have a laugh at my sock, but my Cam does not have an on/off switch on it, and the cord which runs from the back of it is not able to be disconnected at the Cam, so I'd have to clamber around the back of the desk (against the wall) to find what on earth it plugs into.....no, I don't think so. I just don't want to rely only on my software for turning it off. Actually my sock looks great. It's black, and was brand new until I cut it to length for this job - just to keep your mental image accurate. Anyway it looks better than the pink floral pillowcase I put over the monitor when it's not in use......
......I jest!! :p |
I'm with Whirly on this seeking to replace rather than upgrade my PC base unit.
John Lewis are doing the HP T340 UK for about £700 and it seems to have most things that a muggins might want now or in the foreseeable future. Can anyone comment on the ATI Radeon 9200 128Mb video card which it comes with - or anything else for that matter! Details here Hope that works, Cheers, mcdhu |
Stormy
ROFL! :D Reminds me of a very houseproud friend of mine, who also puts an immaculately ironed pillowcase over her keyboard when not in use! Thank you for putting a smile on my face on my first day back at work... Jx ;) |
If you're determined to stick with the PC option...... I know that both Aldi and Lidl buy in batches of high spec and very low price PC base units. You may want to give their websites a look to see if anything comes up.
I've no personal experienceof the kit, but read a couple of positive magazine reviews last year. I can vouch for Evesham support, though the grapevine suggests that it may have been going downhill a little in recent years. |
I bought one!
OK, OK, I admit it! I ignored everyone's advice. :(
I did listen, honestly!! But when I thought about it, I just wanted something a bit faster and with enough memory to keep me doing what I've always done on PCs, for a few more years. The rest, for me, was irrelevant. So...I bought the PC World special sale deal off their website. £429, for something that as far as I can see is about £600 anywhere else, and will be fine for what I want - I hope! It even comes with a 17" monitor, which I don't need, but have found a home for already - even getting paid a pittance for it. And not a whisper of extended warranties. It will hopefully arrive within a week. Anyway, thanks everyone. Dropping in here now and then is quite an...education. Speak to you all again if anything goes wrong with my new PC - hopefully not too soon! And Stormy, that webcam sounds like fun - I want one! |
TheStormyPetrel,
Some Webcams come with little visors now for that reason. Webcams are very easy to hack from the net and get them to turn on without the owners knowing! :eek: Another solution for you would be an Extension cable for your USB: http://images10.newegg.com/productim...116-121-01.JPG That way you would not have to go behind your computer to unplug the webcam. mcdhu, The Radeon 9200 is a budget card, just like the FX 5200 Cards you are seeing in most budget systems. The Radeon 9200, like the FX 5200 will not play most games, and if you are thinking of Flight Sim 2k4, you will have to run it stripped down to the bare minimum. I do not recommend the FX 5200 to anyone. It is just tossing your money out the window. If you can still find a GeForce4 Ti4200, it is a much better card, they run as little as $70.00 in the U.S. but blow most budget cards away. Here is an article from Anand Tech that is well worth the read. (Do not worry too much about the technical info, the graphs and the conclusion at the end will give you a good understanding about the Video Cards on the market.) Fall 2003 Video Card Roundup, Part 4: Budget Shootout The motherboard that HP is using is the Intel® i845GE Chipset. There are two versions of the i845 Chipset. The first i845 used the older PC-133 RAM. This version was a very bad design since PC-133 could not provide enough memory Bandwidth for the Memory Bandwidth hungry PIV. (It would be like having to download 100Mb files with a 56k Dialup. It is just slow.) The i845GE uses DDR PC-2100 and PC-2700 RAM, that feeds the needs of the PIV and helps the PIV get to full potential. (Now you are downloading 100Mb files with a Cable/DSL Connection. It runs as it was designed to do.) The only thing I do no like about the version of the motherboard HP is using is the form factor. The motherboard is the mATX factor, which means it is a shorter, stripped down motherboard, so you have little chance of adding anything down the road to the computer. Here is an example of two motherboards: This is the mATX Version of the Intel i845GE: http://images10.newegg.com/productim...121-169-09.JPG This is the ATX Version of the Intel i845GE: http://images10.newegg.com/productim...121-166-11.JPG I do like that the computer comes with a DVD Burner, that will really come in handy. The hard drive is a good one with 80Gb of space. (It is partitioned is there is 4Gb less on it.) The only weak spots on that computer are the Video Card and the motherboard form. (Also, I am sure HP set the BIOS of the motherboard is you will not be able to upgrade the processor.) Take Care, Richard P.S. Whirlybird, it is your money and your PC. You have to do what makes you happy. Best of luck, and if you have any problems, we will be here to help you as best we can. |
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